Suggestion for the armament on the JAS 39A and JAS 39C

Yeah no obviously i get that it’s just a suggestion i just don’t really see the point in more or less removing a unique aircraft, foldering it with the J37D would be fine imo.

And i wouldn’t even say the hornet is worse, the Gripen is only marginally better in most areas and loses hard loadout wise, ideally yes the gripen is better but in the 15 v 15 reality that is toptier the Hornet wins without a doubt

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Gaijin refuse to fix the radar.
I would much rather have fm fixes and Radar buffs

Than just a 120C

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well sure that is your opinion to which you are entitled.

same can be said about any aircraft and any missile, the 120C5 isnt the Godsent rod of punishment you make it out to be, at least as of right now it performs aggressively mid compared the all the other Fox3s and only grants marginal improvements which wouldn’t warrant a BR increase IMO. And yes obviously it does fine at 13.7 would i take the J10A and by extension almost any other 13.7 over it any day of the week though? yes, yes i would. Only having 4 ARHs just limits your ability to play aggressive and force the enemy to defend until you can take a real killing shot way too much.

So we agree

We do, i want a working Typhoon not a new missile by all means fix the Typhoon and add the new missile.

But we all know what is easier for Gaijin

Good news, Gripen players, we’re now dealing with this rubbish too.

It may come then for us to make the JAS39C 14.0 and the JAS39A 13.7 so theres not a weird top tier line

I have 0 hope on that front, but hey, maybe they won’t screw Swedish air over. First for everything.

that would be a miracle

@Smin1080p_WT Since EF’s are getting Aim-120C-5’s can expect the same treatment for JAS-39C models?

It’s the only top tier jet that is limited to 4 ARH missiles, I think it’s fair to say it should receive better AMRAAMs.

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Reasonable armament for the Gripen’s makes too much sense for Gaijin to do it.

The C could never be 14.0 with 6 missiles, actually nevermind the F-18C is worse in every way than the other ones and it’s still 14.0. Gaijin really doesn’t give a f*** about Swedish air, not to mention we need to research a whole nother 420k RP plane to get what everyone else gets.

Yay! More bsing.

While it is certainly not meta in realistic by any means, that is not a good argument for removing the playstyle. It currently fills a niche no other plane fills in the tree. Personally I find it very fun to play in arcade battles and it might be relevant in Sim (but I can’t speak to that).

I don’t know about the historical options available, but if they could make the change like they did to the Viggen D it would be for the best. One gripen A with the same missiles and one with the aim120, foldered of course, simply to keep existing playstyle.

Its currently just the 14.0 jets under consideration for AIM-120C.

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I see, but wouldn’t make more sense to give C5 to JAS39C’s and make them 14.0? Considering they get uptiered %95 time it will give them more chance to fight back against other top tier jets.

That then removes them from the 13.7 pool, which has a knock on effect down to 12.7. As was the case when previous generations of IR / SARH missiles were introduced, it wont be the case that every aircraft possible will automatically receive them in order to maintain the BR spread.

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Well then in this case we have to wait until Gaijin introduce JAS39NG at least.

Anyway, thanks for answering Smin.

Can we at least expect some decompression then, or at least a matchmaking change to make the BR variance a maximum of 0.7 instead of 1.0? Fox 1 carriers, especially the ones limited to Aim7s, are almost unplayable at 13.0, since matchmaking almost always puts you at 14.0, I believe this will just make it worse. I’m currently grinding the Baz alongside the Netz and there is just no comparing them, also 2 stock 9L and 7Ms with the flight performance of a brick at 14.0 feels… lets just say not so nice.

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that is what i was trying to not change: we got the JA 37DI at 13.0 (same as JAS 39A currently)
uptier JAS 39A to 13.7 with aim-120B’s
then uptier JAS 39C to 14.0 with aim-120C-5’s

i dont see what the problem is here to not do this. we still got a plane at 13.0, one at 13.7 and now two at 14.0, i dont see an issue here.