Suggested B.R changes of some Aircraft

Airframe is relatively sturdy

meaning what

Carries enough ordinance to destroy 2 bases

so does literally everything else 2.0 brs below you

Guided munitions make it very effective for CAS

these start far below 11.0

Gets LANA Flir navigation pod for spotting ground targets

Only real point of significance but the aircraft itself has too mediocre of weapons to really employ it combined with the bad FM.

The internal 20 mm M61A1 rotary cannon can shred enemy aircraft

vulcans do not start at 11.0

AIM-9Ls can be pretty effective for air-to-air combat

9Ls are at 10.0

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All of that was direct copy/paste from the wiki. Which is why its linked.

I have never flown the aircraft, but was trying to lend some idea why it was at the BR it was at. TLDR, probably because of GRB

It’s 11.0 because it came out at 11.0. Gaijin does not move BRs without a massive reason (in their eyes)

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Or that

These are the changes I want to see made

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how do you justify 90% of these, F2G at 7.0???

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You didn’t read the sheet. Try again, slower this time!

(I changed almost EVERY plane’s BR above 5.0. Please ACTUALLY READ the sheet instead of seeing one plane you fly and coping about its position changing. EVERYTHING’s position changed.) The F2G is an incredibly undertiered, overperforming plane currently. I decompressed it.

Above 5.0… sure… how about the AM-1 not moving? Also I just said many of these aren’t justified, and I’ll stand by that

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Then list the issues instead of coping about singular planes without reason. Why would the AM-1 move?

my point was that you said you changed nearly every BR, and many didn’t change

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I DID change most BRs. Do not troll and debate about this. Suggest changes or move on

Well I do agree with most of the top tier changes, the Lazur M/Bis at 12.3 seems a bit low, maybe 12.7? Especially since (IMO) it has the same or similar capabilities as the F-4J, I’m confused about why some vehicles have N/A, does that mean you remove them or what? Also I feel like SU-7BMK could go to 10.7/11.0 at least. This is just my opinion though.

Especially since (IMO) it has the same or similar capabilities as the F-4J

it does not. MiG-21bis is fully restricted to R-60Ms as its viable missiles. F-4J is much better with PD radar and AIM-7Fs.

I’m confused about why some vehicles have N/A, does that mean you remove them or what?

it means I’ve tried to balance these before and no matter what theres a group of people that will cry about where I placed them so I decided to not place them at all. It is all of the non-balancable always will be broken attackers.

lso I feel like SU-7BMK could go to 10.7/11.0 at least

Why.

I suppose this is a good point, however these aircraft excel at different things, as MiG-21 is much better at close range. This is why I said 12.7, as the majority of battles at this BR end in a furball in the middle, something like a MiG-21 would be more helpful.

Makes sense.

It has good speed and a good payload, 10.3 seems a little bit… low considering it is (imo) an equivalent of F-105 or similar.

Might have to. Also forgot to mention it can barely take off with a full 1k LB bomb loadout on rocky canyon seeing how you are already at 6k ft altitude.

Throttle up to max whilst holding the brakes. Once the engine has spooled up, release them. Buc S2 with 16k of bombs has the same issue

damn this thing blew up, let me clarify why i think the A7-K should be 10.7.

  1. the capabilities are available at lower BRs, for example: A-10, A-7D (to some aspects) and the F4E.
  2. The air missiles don’t make this vehicle better, its a ground attacker, it should have some nice missiles to complement a defence against MiG’s and F-16s and even if you use it to attack planes, any dogfight you are in you will lose 80% of the time.
  3. the engine SUCKS, you can barely take off if you have a maxed payload as well as if you get mountainous maps, you can crash without doing anything wrong.
  4. the cannon has got less ammo than its previous models.
  5. ITS NOT COMPETITIVE. this vehicle cannot reach bases in-time before they are all gone, cannot reach the map without the match already being clearly decided and it doesnt have that thing that makes it unique apart from the letter being K.

War thunder people, please play this vehicle for 20ish games and decide if it needs a downtier.

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No, it shouldn’t go down. Maybe when we have decompression then fine but in the mean time we really don’t need more all aspect from the US time to come and raise the win rate for the US below 10.7.

It’s already awful, like, absolutely unplayable for any nation that isn’t the US or at least paired with them.

A7K is a crap plane, the 9Ls are very counterable since the roadmap had flares for all aircraft stock who have access to them in the modifications.
10.7 is where it should go so it can be decent at the role it was made to be flown in.

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Your missing the fact that most nations(besides the US) don’t have a lot of vehicles that have flares under 11.0(I actually don’t think Japan has a single jet with flares below 11.0)

Until decompression happens it can’t be moved down, we have too many issues already between 9.0-12.3 because of US jets not being able to go higher(we still have the F-14A at 11.7 for some unknown reason)