Subtree Rework - Nation Folders

This is something I’m making a separate suggestion for. It’s a problem that isn’t only there with foldered nations, just gets more noticeable.

There’s still a bit to work out, but the basic idea is to make internal categories for copied vehicles. So for example all Bf-109G-6 are considered part of one group. The more of them you already have, the less RP and SL you need to spend on others from this group.
This also isn’t just for foldered nations, but all common vehicles. So for example after playing US, US exports in other trees become cheaper in other trees too.

Essentially instead of roadblocking players and having them play the same over and over again, familiar vehicles like these can be quick and cheap ways to fill lineups, especially once it comes to higher BRs.


That’s not a bad idea. This might be a good system within Nation Folders. I also like the idea of the skin changing the operator nation. So each foldered nation that has it in the tree provides one standard camouflage option, which is already a level of choice that I’d really like.

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I respectfully disagree; this approach perfectly addresses the existing limitations of WT’s current Nation layout restrictions.

Representing each nation individually adds diversity to the game and allows players to create unique, and occasionally nation-exclusive, lineups. In my opinion, this is a win-win situation.

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Is this basically sub tree’s getting their own tech tree’s inside of other tech tree’s, while being able to use those vehicles in the same load out and being under that countries flag when in match making?

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Yes, that’s essentially what it is.

About the flag though it might be possible to show the flag of the majority of a players lineup instead of always defaulting to one nation, but this is a difficult idea because it might be an issue for the UI with too many national flags.

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Pretty interesting concept,could the same idea be used for when making a group tech tree (putting multiple countries under one flag)?

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Yes, that is the idea. I think this might be a good option for multiple nations that aren’t in game. Like Eastern Europe for example, where Gaijin had plans for a long time, but likely also understand that any single nation as “main” nation over others might cause backlash.

This way the nations could all be equal, but still combine lineups to match existing nations like the combined tree concepts made by players do.

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We need this so much, I can’t imagine any problem this would probably pose for anyone and it solves so many current issues
Maybe if we whine loud enough the devs will lose it and give us this system

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Gaijin have just announced their newest event vehicle, the HAL HF-24 Marut

This is a rather interesting aircraft for the Indian nation, and I’m sure many are really excited to see it in game, but it also shows one of the biggest flaws with current subtrees.

With the HF-24, the main serial production variant of a domestic aircraft of the Indian nation is locked to a limited time event. In an Indian tree, this would’ve been a techtree vehicle, but because it is “just” a subtree, it is treated differently.

Subtrees should mean multiple nations working together, instead of one nations content being taken to pad out another.

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Right on.
Nation Folders is desperately needed for this game. And people need to get over the mentality that “wah but giving that nation to that tech tree means they get access to things that my main nation doesn’t.” Just play more than one tech tree…

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This is a great way to put more independentish style trees into the game without exactly making them their own tech tree.

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+1 could be used to flesh out subtrees while also allowing the host nation to receive more domestic options. A win win for all involved

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What the heck, why hasn’t this been passed on to the developers yet? This is a solid proposal, and it absolutely deserves consideration. You have my full support.

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wait till we get the Tejas as an event xD
I swear at this point it might happen

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+1, devs where are yall!

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Lot of these are a bit weird. North and South Korea should be a new unified, complete tree like Israel. If not then at least South Korea should got to Japan. Switzerland is already confirmed to be in German TT. Austria is probably the same. Greece in Italy? Gaijin confirmed that Poland will be added eventually, it would make for a pretty good Eastern Europe tree. USSR has more than enough just because of how many production/prototype variants they’ve got.
That’s my 2 cents.

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This is unlikely to happen as both have barely to no connection. South Korea as sub (hopefully not) is either going to the US or other countries which they militarily connected too.

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Plus Japan already has Thailand as a sub tech tree, which, if implemented correctly in the future with more vehicles, should be more than enough to fill out the gaps and supplement WW2 + postwar JSDF vehicles.

Yes, these are images used in an old forum suggestion. They are no longer accurate to the current game. I saved them here to preserve a suggestion that essentially started this whole idea back when it was made.

I wouldn’t really say that, for example Thai air is already near complete, leaving the new air additions with:

  • F-35A/B
  • F-5TH*
  • T-50TH*
  • F-16A eMLU*
  • Gripen E* (ordered for 2029, probably won’t be added
    sooner)

‘*’ → Vehicles that are unlikely to be top tier

I still don’t think that Korea is a good solution though. Instead I think Indonesia is probably a better and far less controversial option, that would also tie into a theme with Thailand.


But specific subtrees aren’t the point of this suggestion anyways, so it doesn’t really matter here.

Why is this such a common thought? South Korea and Japan have literally nothing in common, other than Japan being horrible to them. If South Korea went to anyone, it’d be the US (unlikely, US tree is bloated and still has more to add at every BR), or the proposed United Korean tree. Other than that, I can only really seeing it being what Canada is, a nation shared between nations.

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