Sub-tree for USSR / Russia?

Dudes claiming that ukraine should be ussr subtree are insane.

Besides, USSR have russia subtree already in game, you can see it by what flag vehicle have on statcard

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I personally dislike the concept of a subtree because it is a cheap way to pad out a TT with copy pastes. Last thing I want to see is an Abrams, leopard, f16, in the Russian tree.

One of the reasons why I hate the state of top tier ground is the amount of copy paste in the BR. Instead of fixing the vehicles that are problematic (leclerc, merkava, ariete) they chose the cheap way out and gave them leopards (except for Israel).

Russia has a lot of unique prototypes/weapon systems. Gaijin should use those.

Some people like myself want to see everything put where it belongs in terms of technological progression.
Others only care about what’s going on in the real world.
Also Russia is not a sub tree.

It literally is tho

Germany is only big 3 status up to rank 5, there is falls off a cliff in both air and ground in terms of density, idk if a subtree is the right move but a few supplementary aircraft to improve density and lineups (swiss leopards and hornet etc)

It’s not considered a sub tree. This same argument can be used against you if you really wanted.
The closest thing the USSR has to a sub tree is Czechoslovakia but even that isn’t considered a sub tree.

Hey, one question, like really.

So you say this:

So you want stuff put where it belongs in terms of technological progression. Logical.

But in other topics you want to literally put every single vehicle into ussr tech tree?

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How is it then? You want stuff where it belongs or do you want to add everything to ussr tree? It does not make any sense?

And why do you flag this? there is literally notning wrong with this post

leased and captured vehicles, nothing more to it bud. Did you try making a point here? Many of these were used in combat or served some purpose within the Soviet Union.

i asked: How does it work with this

Can you explain, “bud”?

Reading comprehension.exe not found

just indulge me and answer it, will you?

Reading comprehension level 500, cuz you want stuff where it belongs and yet you post you want to add everything into the ussr tech tree

Or you want to add 100 premiums to ussr tech tree?

All that is another matter and not even related, it’s just a giant list of stuff that the USSR leased and or captured from the axis during World War 2 and shortly after.

North Korea should go to China, czechoslovakia to germany

That topic is literally called USSR wish list.

So it is a wishlist what to add into the ussr tech tree

And now you say you want vehicles where they belong.

Do you not see that you contradicts yourself?

You still haven’t really answered, is this question a hard one? Is it some delicate matter?

Czechoslovakia can make up its own nation to be honest. Switzerland would be much cooler.

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I didn’t name the topic, I just pile a bunch of ideas onto it. And no, I didn’t contradict myself because all that stuff still deserves to be in the tree in some way. You don’t have to agree with it, I genuinely don’t care.

So you were just posting offtopic there, right? Since your posts there were not connected to the main thread.

I don’t know why you get so defensive when you were caught contradicting yourself, it’s not that big of a deal, after all its just a stupid video game forum, but man, its still funny you started fuming that much. And for what?

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Also:

which tree then? If “where it belongs in terms of technological progression” then it should be added into usa/ger/etc tech tree, so it would kill the sim battles even more

cute falg, next time try to discuss

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None of it was off-topic? Also it just seems like you’re here to bait and troll so I won’t be responding any further :)

What you do here is simply intelectual dishonesty.

I asked you a simple question, and you exploded.

You want to add every single tank there is to USSR tech tree cuz “muh lend lease”, and then you say you want vehicles to be put into tech tree where they belong considering technological progression.

I asked you how you want to do this, because it simply contradicts itself.

And you started ranting, saying everything just to not answer the question.

The fact that you were caught posting takes that cancel themselves out and i pointed it out does not mean you are being baited.
You are being asked to elaborate.

You are the one trolling here.

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honestly you dont sound as smart as you yourself think you might

just as a beforehand, do i think ussr/russia should receive those vehicles? no
but matter of fact those captured / leased vehicles were in active service in the USSR and they have a history with them as well and belong to their own history.
They do in fact have a right to ask for it. Even if they shouldnt necesarily get them.

Same about the ukraine matter, ukraine should never be added Russia. Problem is that the tree in reality is called USSR not russia and ukraine was part of the ussr.

Strictly speaken ukraine is part of the ussr tree

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