No major TT has a need for a sub-tree. The only reason anybody would want one is because they aren’t too fond of that nations playstyle and want to spice it up a bit, at which point you can just play another TT rather than ruining the uniqueness off other TTs.
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Ukraine and Czechoslovakia is already part of ussr
there are a select number of vehicles that exist in ussr that are part of the 2 countries
so no difference really, and adding them as a sub-tree would increase grind or oversaturate the TT
i would rather agree to a select number of vehicles whether light vehicles or vehicles with good negative elevation
neither would UK or france, they all have possible additions
the only “major” nation that needs a subtree currently is germany.
Comparing the projects etc from US and russia to germany which are multiple times larger realy is unfair.
In reality germany is on the same lvls as france and the UK
The only purpose of it would be to fill the gap between the ICE and the EF. That alone is not enouh of a reason for an entire subtree, especially since the early EF models are probably getting added within one of the next 3-4 majors. The ground TT is already one of the most fleshed out ones right now, and there’s still hundreds of potential unique domestic German vehicles left to be added spread out over every era.
which dont have cas capability either
besides that there is more reasons, general addittions of aircraft at that br because the tree from cold war onwards is quite empty then there is the massive light gap from 3.7-6.7
there is enough reasons for it to be added
All the countries of the Warsaw Pact socialist bloc are better.
The big 3 don’t need sub-trees. The entire point of sub-trees is to fill up gaps in minor nations that don’t have enough vehicles of their own to build lineups.
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Uk, france have just as much possible additions / development as germany.
Your argument isnt true since a long time
Yeah? Where are they then?
Your own words, the subtree isnt necesary.
Gajin could fill those gaps with native french or british vehicles.
They just dont choose to at the time.
They had the choice between using subtree vehicles or native ones.
For uk and france the subtrees besides a specific instant like the gripen c were absolutly not necesar.
Germany, UK and France are completly equal in potential vehicles being added
Okay, let’s assume Gaijin remove the SA sub-tree. What are you replacing them with?
U serious?
SA “blocking” the british lights is one of the biggest complains of the british playerbase , where they often didnt “shut up” about it.
@Morvran a local britain propably csn explain better in that regard
all former SSRs make the most sense
Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan are my top three and anything outside of the SSR’s are Iran and Serbia.
The USSR is like the USA in not really needing a subtree due to its massive domestic military industry, however i thought all of the USSR was in the USSR tree already with rare exception for polish western kit
Dudes claiming that ukraine should be ussr subtree are insane.
Besides, USSR have russia subtree already in game, you can see it by what flag vehicle have on statcard
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I personally dislike the concept of a subtree because it is a cheap way to pad out a TT with copy pastes. Last thing I want to see is an Abrams, leopard, f16, in the Russian tree.
One of the reasons why I hate the state of top tier ground is the amount of copy paste in the BR. Instead of fixing the vehicles that are problematic (leclerc, merkava, ariete) they chose the cheap way out and gave them leopards (except for Israel).
Russia has a lot of unique prototypes/weapon systems. Gaijin should use those.
Some people like myself want to see everything put where it belongs in terms of technological progression.
Others only care about what’s going on in the real world.
Also Russia is not a sub tree.
It literally is tho
Germany is only big 3 status up to rank 5, there is falls off a cliff in both air and ground in terms of density, idk if a subtree is the right move but a few supplementary aircraft to improve density and lineups (swiss leopards and hornet etc)
It’s not considered a sub tree. This same argument can be used against you if you really wanted.
The closest thing the USSR has to a sub tree is Czechoslovakia but even that isn’t considered a sub tree.