Su34 R-77-1 or Keep it at 13.3 with basemodel r77?

Personally i think su34 should get the r77-1 as it is pretty much the most advanced russian aircraft with the exception of su57. And imo its not competitive at 13.3 either so 13.7 with a much better missile would only make it more viable(i dont havr it currently but its a free kill usually). Only issue would be grb but su30sm is already so it wouldnt change much. Ussr players what do you guys think?

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idk man… r77-1 just have more range than r77 and have almost same trash seeker. the aim120 more better imo except with range

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More range more energy. If you get within <20km you would have significant advantage over amraams imo

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the aim120 have more better seeker and i prefers to play with aim 120

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Theyre same.

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Only ARH with different seekers are the Aim-54s/F-90s. All other ARHs (MICA, R-77, Aim-120, PL-12, etc etc) have the exact same seeker.

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not rly the derby and the darter literally useless

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They have the exact same seeker though. The missiles themselves are very weak and they loft wierdly, but seekers themselves are the same

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Same seeker, derby just so happened to be an IR missile with a radar taped on to it. Really good under 10km though

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Afaik each ARH has a different seeker, just slightly different. MICA is the hardest to notch.
(Info from Bad Karma)

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I agree with MICA being the hardest, but I attribute that to it being hte hardest to kinematically defeat out of all of them when fired at closer ranges rather than the seeker being implicitly better though.

But Im reasonably confident the base seekers are virtually the same if not the same

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they should give it to the su-34/mig-29smt

I don’t get why Su-34 is 13.3, it can take a way better AA load out than any other flanker with 6 R-27ETs, it should be 13.7 without R-77-1 by any means, as a fighter the su-34 is way better than su-27sm. But I think it should get 77-1 and go to 14.0

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@Bad_Karmaツ Could you verify if Fox 3s have different seekers?

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No need to ping people, just take a look for yourself

Under the AAM (ARH) section.

Keep in mind the MICA is getting a smaller notch angle in this patch due to multiple bug reports about it.

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true but if they add the su-34m variant it will let have hmd and then it will be a really good aircraft at 14.0 or more because then it could carry every simple Russian air-air rocket and would make it really good cas jet

You are aware the we already have the NVO variant right? Gaijin doesn’t have it labeled as such in the tech tree but that’s its name in the files. And yes I believe this aircraft should receive R-77-1.

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im fairly sure su34 we have rn is as modern as it gets.

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python 4 when gaijongles

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its not its just the stander su-34 from 2016 then su-34m cam into service in 2021