Su30mk2 being 13.3 is a joke

You were the one making the laughable claim that the Gripen had worse manouvrability than the Su-30MK2?

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Any smart Gripen should have enough energy by that point to pull up and over his nose, it’s how I’ve beatern flankers in the past, just go up

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Thats that Im leading pretty much - Flanker got one chance to pull this off, otherwise it gonna be punished and punished rather swiftly

nah the gripen is so baaaad

it totally isnt an UFO /s

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In what way? i thought it would be similar to the su30sm we have already just with the su27sm Radar but Nope its a two seater su27sm

Bro I just got gift from my friend I’m very happy

i would rather use Viggen radar than Eurofighter and F-15

Well, I’m surprised that people cry about very easier to dodge ARH but not the IR missiles in the lower BR that is shouldn’t be there at all but still no one care. Really guys are you actually play ARB at all?

F-16A OCU Squadron with 4 Magic 2 and 2 9M at 12.7
JH-7A with the new addition to PL-5EII at 12.3 not to mention they are using Rolls-Royce Spey 203 and it’s so powerful

Let me ask you what is harder to dodge between R-77 or Magic 2?

Depends on lots of things

R-77? Like, the Magic is a strong missile, but i would choose a missile with 5 times the Magic range any day for ARB, at 13.3 its better to have a FOX-3 than a IR missile

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It’s not like the su-30mk2 is lacking in good short range ir missiles with the r73 anyways

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Su-30MK2 at 13.3 is a textbook example of br compression. In a full downtier you can face F-16A that doesn’t even have a radar missile or even IRCCM Fox-2. And in a full uptier you can face Rafale the destroyer of worlds. And both situations are equally unfair.

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being fr though, an su-30mk2 has a much better chance of beating a rafale than an f-16a blk 10 beating a su-30mk2. and lets not talk about the even worse planes at 12.3 like the f-4ejkai or kurnass 2k lmao

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I’m definitely gonna leave my F4F ICE in the dust with this one🫠

13.0 it’s gonna face it every match haha

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nah 99% of all war thunder players quit before they get a full downtier

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Not sure about that. Because smart player in F-16 will be able to get close unless MK2 is willing to spend several RVV-AEs and after that Flanker can just bend over and spread those nozzles for 20mm rounds. I’d say it’s equally unfair both for uptiers and downtiers.

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you are acting as if i lied about something

No lies, just the analogy choice

skill issue just beat gravity by virtue of sheer idiocy