Su-57's radar suite is actually better, F-22 is ageing badly. [Not Ragebait]

I mean, the F22 does have more powerful radar. But that’s about it, like it can’t even share its data link with other aircraft. Like America had to bring back the U-2 just to be a data link translator for the F-22. And not to mention that the F-22 doesn’t even have a helmet-mounted sight or JHMCS. Like the Su-57 has both a helmet-mounted sight and 360-degree coverage with the radars which is something that F 22 is missing.

360* irst search and dircm also

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Thats what I’m saying it has a far more powerful radar and sensor fusion doesn’t work the way this guy thinks it does its not like power rangers, but this is also why I asked about the raptor, as from the most basic search I could find BAE systems website states that the raptor has 360 battlefield situation coverage. The U-2 from my understanding is also only for data transfer between the F35 and f22, but granted this issue can’t exist on the su-57 as it doesn’t have an f35 equivalent in the air space. The f-22 also has starting last year adopted HMD, one of the better ones on the market as well, with full color display and augmented reality included to show friend or foes. So once again this article leaves out a lot on the f-22 and the points brought up kind of support the f-22 has far better radar suites primarily in its ability to detect the opposing aircraft as at any angle the raptor will spot the su-57 first.

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Ok, so when it comes to U2, from what I was understanding, they were using the F-35 as an example of one platform, so the F-22 has a data link, but it’s a one-way data link where the F-22 can receive information from others, but it cannot realy give it back. Mainly because of the old system they used on the F22. And I genuinely don’t know how it’s supposed to have 360 coverage because the radar is only pointed forwards; it doesn’t have side-facing radars or radars anywhere else like the SU-57. So I don’t really think he does have 360 coverage. But when it comes to helmets, I did also find a few pictures of it with the helmets you described but I doubt it’s in the numbers

Su-57 doesn’t have a hms/hmd either in service rn like f-22

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su 57 has literally the same helmet as the su 27/35 ZSH-7A helmet
The only difference between the Russian targeting helmet and the American JHMCS is the Russian uses a small device that’s detachable from the helmet

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But there is a more advanced helmet in a works that is close to capabilities of JHMCS

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This is from BAE’s website so thats were I got this from and I’d be willing to believe them especially keeping in mind how classified the f-22 is.

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I see. I would still question it because I like to be very conservative about the capabilities of planes. But if it does have 360 coverage, I wonder what kind of sensors it uses to achieve 360 degrees coverage.

And by the way, thank you for discussing this with me like a normal human being and not trying to rip my head off. Like 90% of the F-22 glazers when you question something about that plane

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It can be only irst same as f35 i think ?

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Maybe, but if that’s the case, then that’s a kind of a problem for the F-22 because, unlike the Su-57, that would imply that it doesn’t have the capability of guiding weapons from any direction.

from what I understand F22’s can share information with each other

the issue is that F35 uses a different stealth datalink system, not that the F22 cant transmit data

Yeah yeah you’re right

But does the su-57 in service have the trackers for the hms? I don’t think so

Nah, the F-22 raptor is the best aircraft in the world actually. !

Su-57 Falcon only has propaganda to make you feel safe.

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yes

I mean the system is from the 90’s so not going to always have the most advanced stuff just this particular post annoyed me because it seemed full of mistakes and dishonest about comparing them.

Oh trust me, I understand. Like In my opinion, I don’t think it’s fair to compare the Su-57 to an F-22 or the other way around because, first of all, the Su-57 is much newer, and that means it has much better processors, processing computers, and pretty much everything else when it comes to electronic warfare and stuff like that, and it’s a multirole aircraft. The F-22 is older and has older computers and flight systems, but it’s still better because it’s purely designed for air superiority; that’s the only mission that aircraft is meant to do. Like the F-22 is better than the Su-57 in air combat because that’s the only thing that it can do. And when we talk IRL, the Su-57 is better than the F-22 simply because it’s a multirole aircraft. I don’t know. What I’m trying to say is if we talk about War Thunder, yes, they are going to be relatively equal. If we talk about the real world, they are meant to fight in completely different doctrines. So there is no point in comparing them because they do completely different jobs

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The problem is su57 lacks the hms trackers in cockpit

And the hmd is yet to come, but its still better than jhmcs

F35 would do that with the help of DAS using the MAW appertures and the small arrays on its body to detect incoming radar emmisions

Su57 also does the same, except the DIRCM also acts as a IRST