Su-57's radar suite is actually better, F-22 is ageing badly. [Not Ragebait]

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726

its true what he said, su57 and t50 has done more combat than the f22. ukraine proved that su57 is active and has done pretty big damages compare to the f22, who we know is not the primary air to ground plane, even if they wanted so.

i will not say that the su57 got a air kill as most of the time its only is long range and it could either mig31 / su35 / su30sm2 or the su57 with R37-M.
one thing for sure is that su57 is doing good with striking target deep inside with kh69 who sams sometime cant intercept it.

728

su-57 has an air to air kill on its own drone lol (if it was that, not 100% sure).
At least its shown it can get close to ukr air space without being detected if it was an su-57

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729

I made the suggestion for the Su-57 and was looking at it

730

oh, you got a link to the suggestion page?

731
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732

no not really the F22 has a good bit of ground attack history. and the only people who say the SU57 got a air to air kill is the bulgarian military (heavily russian biased) so dont think that is true either. everything that guy said either has no evidence (a lie) or just insulting people after doing 2 minutes of research proves him wrong

733

I know it got air to ground capability, just said that most of the time its the f35 that is selected for cas and air to ground mission.

734

F22s were bombing stuff before F35 entered service

735

okay ? doesnt change the fact that the f35 is always the first choice.

736

but it isnt?

how could it be the first choice before it existed

now it maybe is but that wasnt always the case, and the comment is about operational history

737

even before f35, f15 was the first choice.

f22 was always for air control / interception.

738

doesnt change the fact that it has preformed a significant amount of strike missions

739

also in terms of missions flown SU-57 doesnt even come close even without including training

740

what do you mean by that exactly ?

741

its very simple

the F-22 has flown a lot more missions than Su-57, even excluding training

including intercepts, CAP, and Strike missions

742

well that for from a 25 years old plane i mean what do you expect.
su57 has been astive only after the ukraine war, around start of 2024. 2 year of being active has done more than the avrage combat plane.

743

it hasnt though, like at all

the only thing it has been confirmed to have done is launch stand off weapons from a safe distance

744

well a lot of things are not confirmed. the thing that i know 80% or more sure that su57 has done is

  • sead
  • recon
  • destroy himars with drone ( still need more confirmation )
  • putting good work agains modern sams ( kh69 )

only down side is no air to air kills.

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745

I very much doubt two of those

746

which one ?