No, it has no more capabilities than the F-14B, Mig-27K, Tornado IDS, Harrier Gr 7, F-4E (lol 11.0 has 4 TV bombs, and medium range missiles, while it is a supersonic aircraft with excellent maneuverability parameters)
I’ve already detailed what the Su-39 should look like to avoid being a laughingstock, where it’s only strong when no one resists it. In such a situation any airplane is strong
You don’t have any of these airplanes on your account. You don’t know if they are strong or not.
Not how that works
All 11.3+ Stormtroopers except the Viggen and even many earlier ones have thermal imaging.
Idk what a stormtrooper is in this context but the issue isn’t thermals at 11.3, its making an already good aircraft stronger for no real reason.
Lol, well then you could introduce the F-14B without the phoenix. It would still be a good airplane. But for some reason they gave it medium range missiles even though it’s an attack aircraft.
The problem with the Su-39 is that the current model in the game doesn’t match the design of the airplane at all.
The Su-39 is a versatile all-weather attack aircraft that is capable of fighting off enemy aircraft on its own.
That’s why they developed a thermal imager and a radar that can see stationary tanks.
And that’s why they added the R-27.
There’s none of that in the game. It’s literally a Su-25 that was added a Shkval and 2 TV missiles. And because of that they raised the rating by 1.3, which is just a disaster.
I’ve seen the opinion of a dozen experienced pilots who said the current rating of the airplane should be 10.7 max
Translator’s error. When I write a lot of text, I use it to speed up my response.
There is no point in taking the Su-25T or Su-39 while there is the Mig-27k.
It has an excellent aiming station, albeit without thermal imaging (which is also a disadvantage), but it can aim missiles in a wide range of angles.
In addition, it flies very well. Not as good as the F-14 or F-16, but acceptable.
Su-39 flies the worst, has the worst aiming station and its only plus is 16 vortexes.
But then the strongest airplanes are the Phantoms, which have 30+ bomb hangers. That’s potentially 30 kills!
That’s how it works in the logic of those who think the Su-39 is strong, right?
As an ASB main, a frequent flyer of the Harrier Gr7 in SB with TIALD pod, I can somewhat concur that imaging pods can be quite potent in ASB. Potentially more effective than radar for locating and ID’ing targets. Though rarely does SB get a second thought when it comes to aircraft additions, though thankfully ASB BR can be tweaked accordingly if it becomes an issue.
I’m sorry what is an attack aircraft?
I’m not quite sure how that sounds correct in English. I always thought it was correct. Attack aircraft is what the game calls Su-25, A-10, Harrier, etc.
I meant what aircraft are you referring to as an attack aircraft
My understanding is that these are aircraft that are focused on hitting ground targets.
However, it is important to realize that I am not the one who believes that strike aircraft that get into the same fight as f-14 type aircraft should be severely limited in armament.
I was referring to this line:
Lol, well then you could introduce the F-14B without the phoenix. It would still be a good airplane. But for some reason they gave it medium range missiles even though it’s an attack aircraft.
I meant that this airplane has smart bombs, so it is an attack aircraft by its capabilities. At the same time, contrary to logic, it also has excellent A2A armament and can have everything at once.
Its one of definition
The F-14B is a Fighter/Interceptor first, that can carry guided bombs second (I consider it the first “multi-role” jet in game)
The Su-39 is an Attack/strike aircraft first, that can carry a wider array of AAMs. (I dont really consider it “True” mutli-role. rather its just a more modern strike aircraft)
The Su-39 has radar for guiding the Kh-31, Kh-35 and R-27, R-77 missiles.
This is literally all of its differences from the Su-25T. Now there is an airplane in the game that doesn’t have a single difference from the other, although it’s actually a different machine.
It was given radar and 0 missiles that it aims. Maybe issue someone a targeting container with no bombs?
Back to what you said:
Yes, the Su-39 is more of a strike aircraft (however it was conceived as a wide range mission aircraft. For participation in anti-terrorist operations, etc).
By definition from its technical specification, it should be able to defend itself against enemy aircraft (Su-25 and Su-25t have no such capability). That is the difference. It is a cheap multi-purpose airplane.
Yes, the F-14B is a multi-role airplane, but the Mig-27K is also a multi-role airplane, but it doesn’t have the R-23.
Just because the F-14B is multi-purpose doesn’t justify that it destroys the logic of dividing airplanes into classes. Starting from 11.0-11.3 many airplanes are already multi-purpose, so I see no reason why subsonic airplanes shouldn’t have A2A as long as the F-4E has medium range missiles at 11.0
And the Su-39 is a strike aircraft in the first place, and it can carry the R-27 in the second place.
It will still not be equal to other aircraft in A2A, as it is slow and clumsy. And it can only take 2 R-27 missiles, sacrificing A2G.
At the same time f-14 can take 6 medium range missiles.
the reason is easy you just ingore it all the time, su 39 is a premium, all others you mention are not, giving a premium striker just is not the plan cause of balancing reason, the single fact that it is a premium limits it, the highest allowed premium aviation br currently is 11.3 any further addition of stronger missles like the r 27er you would want would push the br higher to 11.7 at least.
Premiums arent supposed to be p2w versions, thats why it doesnt get upgrades and you cant compare premiums to tech tree vehicles
omg. I never once wrote about the R-27ER, which is WAY stronger than the R-27R. I’m all in favor of balancing.
What the hell does it matter if an airplane is in the tech tree or if it’s premium?
Su-39 should be on 10.7 at the moment, there is nothing to do higher than that.
Obviously, if only Su-39 gets R-27R, then Su-25T will go to 10.7 and Su-39 will stay at 11.3, because it’s logical.
Next, the Su-25TM which is the Su-39 will be introduced into the game, it will be a full copy of it in tech tree.
The p2w is a 2a4 leopard for 60 dollars, which is the best 10.3 tank and available for instant purchase. The Su-39 is not the best airplane in either A2G or A2A.
You have to remember the Su-39 is a 2008 ish jet. Its contempory should be the Ef Typhoon and F-15. Its going to have limitations in game because it quite literally is more modern than most, to give it its true capabilities would make it a very potent aircraft. There is a reason why several jets have had artificial limitations applied to them. Take the Harrier Gr7 and its targetting pod, its a far far earlier generation than we ‘should’ have
Its for guiding these onto the target first
what? 1995
There is no year balance in the game, you are delusional.
If you’re going to argue that way, I’ll remind you that the Su-27 appeared 1981.
Do people even have a brain when they compare subsonic attack aircraft and class 4 aircraft by year not realizing that they have a huge difference in price and purpose.
I’m aware of that. My point is that adding an airplane with radar and no missiles is like adding an aiming container and no bombs