Su-34: Precision Jackpot

Ah yes, the Brit’s suffer. (Not) different play styles for sure. But nothing suffers like poor old italy

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So… your asking gaijin to remove your better T90 in the Brit tree?

May I remind you in terms of air combatants, the harriers are extremely good in turn fights, boast high Cms, and high amount of AAMs typically?

Su-34 is 13.3 and should be 13.7 in air. Simple. Insane something with 8x R-77 and a PESA radar isn’t.

Also… Su-34 has 100x the A2G fire power and A-10C has. It’s funny that you still think an A-10C is a “good” aircraft in GRB

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Yes, please get rid of the T-90

Harriers only have good turn rates at low air speeds.

They have high CMs count on the Gr7 and FA2 only and due to BOL. BOL is modeled wrong and is underperforming by at least 75% if not more. It’s incredibly weak.

Also their heat sigs are wrong due to high thrust from how they bodged the hover working. Meaning flaring anything is far harder than it should be

They don’t have high AAM counts. The average is 4 missiles. Gr7 is actually missing the ability to take 6x AAMs

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Then let’s give the Su-34 and Su-25SM3 Vikhrs only. It’s a different play style for sure but just a skill issue if you cant survive to hit something with them. Soviets don’t need KH-38s

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Dude refusing the MKI is like refusing a hot Spanish Latina to a dance and an after party. Personally i would not do that.

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Why do I want an Su-30 C&P when we have the Typhoon. The best looking aircraft ever made

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Two is better than one.

Platan has FLIR ?
Anyhow SIM will be one sided battles as during the Vikhr era. No wonder that players hates large open maps when GJ allows such weapons with very limited counter.

Platan doesn’t. Only the Kh-38MT’s do.

The Su-34 and Su-25SM3 can’t use Vikhrs

Then laser guided KH-29s only then

Or they stay how they are.

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If Britain complaing about Brimstones is a skill issue, then Su-34s should be fine with similar weapons then and don’t need FnF missiles

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So far you’re the only one bringing the phrase “skill issue” into the thread.

Then entirely remove the AGM65.

See how stupid that sounds?

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Actually, it doesnt, Either limit all to laser only, or dont limit any to laser only.

Cherry picking is more unfair

Though if we are removing AGM-65 then aslo remove Pantsir

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It’s not an argument of equivalence when the Brimstone never had an IR variant.

Though I agree in the stopgap measure of adding IR to them, your argument is illogical.

And regardless, you can still ripple them, and notch at 12 KM while guiding them in with the fantastic pod it gets.

from that range, by the time they reach the target the opposing team would have gone and won the next 3 games already

Pantsir has an effective range of 16km, and GR4 is only armed with 2x Aim-9M in a battle-space where most have ARH and/or are in high performance multi-role aircraft.

So you have to enter within range of everything, fire off 1-9 Brimstones at 1 target and either guide it via pure laser or trust the IOG to get it close and then laser it in the last few seocnds onto target. To go from about 14km takes at least 60s (about its max guidance time)

KH-38s/AGM-65s can be fired off at seperate targets, are faster, have longer range and dont require you to remain exposed all the time. Brimstones are going to be niche and rarely used without major buffs. Like upgrading them to Brimstone 2s

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