I think he’s using a translator, which makes the exchange quite confusing.
What he’s saying is that China received the VT-4 in their tech-tree despite not being an actual user of that tank (even though they’re the manufacturer of it), while the Thai sub ground tree (in the Japanese tech-tree) didn’t receive it. Which is kinda odd since Thailand is one of the main operators of the VT-4 with Pakistan.
The issue here is the double standard situation where China received the Taiwanese Abrams and Japan didn’t get the Thai VT-4.
Is it more clear like this ?
Anyway, that’s completely off topic.
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su30sm2 represented in game is literally fake lol
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It’s more like an SM3 than an SM2.
Well the upgrades are both planned for SM2 (though for the radar we don’t really know which one it is but we know it’ll get a new radar) but they aren’t in place yet
So much less controversy if they had just added the Su-35.
They really shot themselves in the foot with this one.
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they wanted to be greedy (extra 400k rp) but they just dug a deeper hole.
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Nyet, comrade. Very much is a thing (in limited numbers, but whatever)
considering there’s only the -30SM2 lol
True, but there’d be a whole other new controversy even with that being added
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I’m sure of that, at least the jet wouldn’t be immaginary tho I guess.
Performance wise, the thing would still be busted, and even with a few more tricks up its sleeve.
I would be happier with Su-35, but whatever, SM2 was easier and faster to make after those complains of Japan getting top Russian jet
Judging by Mirage 4000, if there is even one Su-30SM2 with those engines and radar, it’s enough for adding it into the game
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Apart from the obvious upgrades the jet is pretty much sloppy, NOT in performance, but rather the model, it doesn’t have any of the correct 3D model features (aside from the under-nose antenna), and the camo is laughable.
Smin stated that the jet is not considered placeholder anymore, if that ugly camo makes it to live it will be hilarious…
Is it? It fixes the main issue of the -30SM with the underpowered engines for its weight. Now it catches up and its thrust vectoring is now more deadly than before. Of course, there is also the new (ish) capability it can have to participate in early game BVR with higher success.
The Rafale C F3R also benefitted from this. Indian Rafales used 8 MICA loadout, so since it technically could do that then the French one received it anyway. Or at least, I’m sure that’s how it went.
This logic can be applied to basically every vehicle in the game (more or less, depending on how Gaijin is feeling about balance that day) so… fun times lol
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No I was talking about the 35 there, won’t differ much from the SM2 we just got, but it has a few more interesting tweaks like MAW, LWR and possibly better RWR coverage (not sure on the last one).
Ohhh okay. I mean I’m pretty sure the -30SM2 has MAW too? but other than that -35 has it beat with RWR coverage
There is a report up for it, a radar MAW provided by the IRBIS, that also mean that it’s only front aspect tho.
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Why are these people so upset? SM2 is better than Rafale, flying at high altitudes like a damn ghost at tremendous speeds with its sh***y spam of missiles, or F15 with its spam of 120 missiles, which fly quite long distances?. SM2 will still be a medium-close combat machine. Not much will change. When they nerfed the R73, no one got that upset, but now it flies into the rear sphere with one fart of heat traps.
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I suspect they chose Su-30SM20 over 35 for the ease of C&P while avoiding the need to give one to the Chinese tree.
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I’m sure that, to speed up production due to what’s happening in Eastern Europe, they’re using improved Bars and AL31 engines, but we know that the N035 Irbis and AL41 are planned for aircraft, meaning the platform is capable of supporting them, so it’s not false.
Considering that since the end of 2023 the Russian Air Force has been rapidly modernizing, I’ve seen several new Su-35s, especially Su-34s, which have proven to be incredible aircraft with glide bombs and long-range missiles. There were also 2 or 3 production batches of Su-57s, and I don’t remember the exact number of Su-35s and Su-30s. In short, the VKS is rapidly increasing its numbers, becoming more modern and experienced.