Su 30sm2 should be weakened

It is, because it still remains the lightest one, with the most of thrust, with native chinese engines.
In a dogfight it has more possibilities to destroy the Su-27SM and even more chances against Su-30SM

Sukhoys are food for F-18s, I want that food to be tasty, not some weak trash

It’s fitted with bars. Me and ron_23 made this argument plenty of times on the su27 thread, and a tech mod (ralin) on ru thread agrees. But gaijin gonna do what gaijin gonna do, the radar should just be upgraded bars with 2x more range instead of irbis, but gaijin decided to interpret upgraded bars means irbis.
MOD video on su-30sm2 literally shows bars in the background lol

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i have been trying to explain this to people on other platforms aswell, i be showing them footage from the MOD and things directly from them. Just to get hit back with a no and a link to some random ahh article saying irbis and al-41 on all SM2s, deadass feels like your talking to brick walls sometimes.

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Biblically accurate articles

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Well,
I am most certainty not looking forward to getting my shit pushed in by R-27ERs by the notching machine, so I’ll be steering clear of 14.x until this thing raises in BR.
Good one for the Russians, though.
Been a rough time patch for the Russians without a genuinely equivalent aircraft to compete with everything else.

I’d say the Su-27SM and J-11B are pretty even usually, but the J-11B is better >600kmh and the 27SM is better <600kmh.


Here’s a graph of the acceleration of the 27SM, 11B, and 30SM2.

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BulgariaMilitaryWatch 1# primary source apparently

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scream-if-you-love-bulgaria-scream-if-you

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Have you underwent lobotomy for the entirety of the last year? Because I clearly remember something else also having no competition.

Now it gets competition, but it isn’t NATO so it’s not fine.

???
What?

I think gaijin really messed up in how they released Red For and NATO planes.

I think it should’ve gone:
MiG-29K, F/A-18C
Su-30SM, F/A-18E
Su-30SM2, F-15E W/ AESA.

Then in the future Su-35S and F-15EX. But now we have the SM2 coming out at the same time as the Super Hornet, which isn’t really balanced.

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Sorry, I’ll use primate terms;

Does Rafale ring a bell? :)

Reread very carefully; I was saying the Russians had a rough time patch without a genuinely equivalent plane
Are you high?
Hop off the aggression

Something really funny to me is that during the Storm Warning Dev alot of CCs were talking about how the EFT was gonna be so much better than the Raf.

and now, the raf is… yeah.

If I misread I apologise, but I genuinely thought you said the SM2 has no competition.

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Oh, it absolutely has. Don’t get me wrong.
I just said that the Russians couldn’t actually compete for a long while.
I’ll edit to make it clearer.

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This thread brought the worst out of me ngl, to the point where I couldn’t read right, my bad.

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All good, just a misunderstanding :)
For what’s worth, we do have a shared hatred for the Rafale; dethroning that blatantly handheld aircraft is just fair.

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I really love the Rafale irl, but I think it’s stupid they added such an advanced version. We should’ve gotten an earlier model.

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