Su 30sm2 should be weakened

[exeisdefeatable]

Do you mean it WOULD cook everyone because how OP it would be :D

[MeDоЕd]

I don’t understand why people compare the Rafale and the Su-30SM2. The Rafale is the only aircraft with TVS missiles with ARL heads,

while the Su-30SM2 is more suitable for long-range combat. Its radar allows it to launch all eight missiles and guide them at extreme angles.

Why not compare the AR-15 with the Barrett?

[Zannafrancy]

@DirectSupport

F-15EX

F15ex is the closest counterpart, but because we can’t have 5th gens the only way to balance this would be assymetrically by actually giving opponents better modelled missiles or even better fix arh seeker heads so bvr actually becomes slightly realistic. Implement the aam4 bug reports, fix aim120c5 or add aim120d, fix pl12a, buff the range on the micas or whatever.

Literally anything is better than 0 balance

[Zannafrancy]

Considering all opponents are gimped I believe this.

[NukaColaVato-psn]

It physically shouldn’t be able to look 240° to your left or right.

[Macron-Spokesman]

@Zannafrancy

F15ex is the closest counterpart, but because we can’t have 5th gens the only way to balance this would be assymetrically by actually giving opponents better modelled missiles or even better fix arh seeker heads so bvr actually becomes slightly realistic. Implement the aam4 bug reports, fix aim120c5 or add aim120d, fix pl12a, buff the range on the micas or whatever.

Literally anything is better than 0 balance

I’m just opposed to removing the Su-30SM2 or unhistorically nerfing it. But I do agree with all the other suggestions.

[Zannafrancy]

@MeDоЕd

while the Su-30SM2 is more suitable for long-range combat. Its radar allows it to launch all eight missiles and guide them at extreme angles.

Because it can literally do both things.

[Zannafrancy]

@DirectSupport

I’m just opposed to removing the Su-30SM2 or unhistorically nerfing it

It having the irbis in the first place is dubious + you do realize that most aircraft tit fights against are already ahistorically nerded

[ZVO_Spetsnaz]

Micas can have their range if the Seeker buff is removed, and if F15EX is added, SU-35s will also need to be added.

[Macron-Spokesman]

@Zannafrancy

It having the irbis in the first place is dubious.

Does it not have Irbis-E in service?

[a_00]

@not a bug

who cares your down syndrome

learn to write first mate

[Macron-Spokesman]

@ZVO_Spetsnaz

and if F15EX is added, SU-35s will also need to be added.

We should be advocating for all remaining 4th gens to be added in the first half of 2026 anyway, and this includes Su-35 and F-15EX.

[racimazzedine]

chinese flanker.

[Zannafrancy]

@ZVO_Spetsnaz

Micas can have their range reduced if the Seeker buff is removed, and if F15EX is added, SU-35s will also need to be added.

Micas are already nerfed in range, f15ex vs su35 would be balanced if aim120s finally get buffed.

[Macron-Spokesman]

Those too, whatever is the best of the remaining Chinese flanker (J-15? J-16?)

[FeetPics]

That is 120 degrees left and right.

[racimazzedine]

at least 4 different variants.
and also please my mig29/35.

[SoyBeanInhaler]

Gaijin will just add Su-35 at this point bro goodness gracious

[naruto24k]

those i rookie number i can edit 50 r77s on su35 and 96 aim120 on f15 and 200 on b-1

[ZVO_Spetsnaz]

I completely agree, and the Su30sm2 should remain as it is and have increased production along with Rafale and Euroghter with AESA.