Because F-15SA is the airframe that F-15EX was based on, not the F-15E
F-15SE, not F-15SA, F-15SA is from 2013 with AN/APG-63v3
Then what airframe are you talking about when the 1st flight with the APG-82(v)1 was only in 2014
https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/486296/f-15e-takes-first-flight-with-new-radar-system/
Approval around 2010
https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub/reports/FY2014/af/2014f-15e_rmp.pdf?ver=2019-08-22-110544-313
Alot of false information lol but hey lets continue the Russian pandering
what were they wrong about?
F-16C got hmd in 2006 same for the F/A-18C
So enlighten me where was I spreading misinformation?
So please tell me from what exact year the
F-16c, F/A-18C and F-15E we have in game are.
(when did they get their HMD irl)
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Ooooh no that is beyond equal saying that is complete ignorance
Over 30 seconds faster to altitude:
Which makes those Hammers faster to launch off, which have the same exact ranges in ground RB as Kh-38s, but Kh-38s don’t have GPS backup.
Even the Mirage 2000 was faster before its fuel weight was slightly reduced.
And 229s were installed in the 2000s for a number of F-15E squadrons, not AESA though.
F-15Es started to get modernized with AESA radars in the mid 2010s, after 2012.
@bertgame
Alright, which country are you a fanboy of? France or Russia? Fanboyism tends to be the root cause of people resorting to insults instead of civilized discussion.
Cause objectively Hammer and Kh-38 are more equal than not; in a direct comparison Hammer is slightly better.
In ground RB, they’re equal.
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RMP got approved in 2010, 1st unit got delivered IIRC in 2012, with 1st flight in 2014. Fleet wide integration slated to be completed last year
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Hey, thanks for the rest of the years.
So yeah, the F-15E we have in game can’t get AESA even if we wanted it.
We might as well just wait for F-15EX to come to War Thunder.
Same situation with Su-30SM’s engines starting refit this year, might as well just wait for Su-30SM2 to be added to the game instead.
Huh?
Hammer is slow (and atleast is able to be locked on by other ir/irst spaa). Other than this top attack theres nothing better than kh38. + U dont play against pantsir
I wonder what people will tend to use when they hear massively stupid things like decreasing CAS cost is solution to CAS spam. Good luck with that
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So Hammer can be locked like Kh-38.
Pantsir is weak against meta CAS, and you defending Pantsir like it’s your job doesn’t change that fact.
No one said decreasing SP decreases CAS use. CAS use itself isn’t the problem, CAS being unkillable is the problem.
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funny this isn’t a picture or evidence of the X-38 on Su-30SM, you’re just rambling off topic now about French CAS…something unrelated to this thread. Anybody got evidence besides “there are pictures, but I can’t find them?
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DUDE u said that lowering sp cost will solve CAS problem by pressuring people to use their spaa. I wonder what something like otomatic will do against 10x su30/su34 spam. Man u cant think on ur own
If u dont believe me atleast believe ur own words. BRUH
It was addressing the latter part of your post that was incorrect.
@bertgame
No, I stated that lowering the cost of CAS with guided weapons would make me grind SPAA above the BR of 9.3 again.
In-fact, you just proved I stated the opposite of what you claimed.
Thanks for admitting that you lied.
then the prior part must be correct
It isn’t, I’m just lazy and busy with more important matters than re-finding the images I didn’t save to local storage.
Great that it would make YOU grind 9.3 spaa. Just. Great.
Idk where i lied. I only said that ur idea was turbo stupid
KH-38 never should have been introduced. Have you all lately played Ground RB top BR? Sometimes 1/3 of the team is in russian KH capable jets and the killfeed doesn’t stop showing air to ground kills. If at least Pantsirs would be on the opposite site, but right now there is nothing to counter this. Kh range is too good, target pods are too good and this missile is just too fast with too much range.
Speed should be nerfed and range as well. Also KH’s should become laser guided as Gajin decided Brimstones to be. This way Suchois would be forced to operate withing SPAA range of allied nations and it would slow down the kill feed. Not 6 kills with one volley, but laser pointing, using KH ordnance one by one. Its pointless to have KH-38 ingame, while max SPAA range for its opponent nations are 10-12 km at best.
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@El_Gran_Capitan
Calm down.
You replied to the wrong person, I haven’t played Soviet ground in months outside a 6.7 match with a friend.
I have all 10 tech trees completed.
@Thodin
Neither speed nor range can be nerfed as that requires documentation, and Kh-38 is already “nerfed” by having the AGM-65 IR seeker in-game currently.
AGM-65D/G, Kh-38, Hammer, and PGM_3 out-ranging SPAA for 2 years now, not necessarily all doing it for 2 years.
When Gaijin saw how easily AGM-65D players were dying to SPAA they didn’t assume it was a massive skill issue, they thought the players were skilled. So why not add the next step of IR guided AGMs copy-pasting the AGM-65 IR seeker?