Like i said earlier the aim 120a was never meant for close range engagement and compared to all the other modern fox 3 its for sure not the most sluggish
Also comparing the pheonix that was exclusively meant for long range engagement to a medium range missile is a pointless comparison
Well yes but its mostly because of server tick rate which makes missiles wobble
But the mica even if it didn’t have tvc would still try to pull too much and drain too much energy at ranges past 15 km
Yeah no thats just wrong
Currently its max fin aoa is 24° but that doesn’t mean it will always full deflect its fins all the time mainly because of compression and the targets distance
It will always try to pull the right amount i order to hit the target
Ik in the dev when it first came out the missile was absolutely crazy and would literally pull 90° turns or more which was unrealistic
No clue who said that to you but no its not that good
The rafale is able to make it better past 15 km yes but nobody really does that because there is no benefits to it
It will just get notch or run out of energy
Depends yeah but most of the time its better past 15 km because it has a better terminal, lower drag and a longer burn time
oh yeh BTW im not arguing amraam shouldn’t be buffed, I’m just giving a difference doctrinally. aim 120 a is obviously underperforming in energy retention when hitting maneuvering targets as seen by British documentation and bug reports made by the British community.
yeah. aam4 is actually massively overperforming in close range engagements though, it shouldn’t be able to hit anything within 4-10kmish depending on speed.
it is also overperforming jn maneuverbility and seekerhead, should be much more reliant on datalink
From the Pre-Fox-3 discussions. There was speculation that AAM-4 and PL-12 would be limited specifically so that they could be added alongside Aim-120A/B, which at the time was a good idea, but with C5s in game now… Its probably time for any and all buffs to be applied.
The only tricky bit comes aircraft like the J-8F at 13.0. Though i’ve seen mention of stuff like giving it PL-10? Instead
Not that then… I cant recall the solution proposed but it sounded good. Allowing the PL-12 to be buffed without nerfing the J-8F (and maybe JF-17) with BR increases
@Xeno_quaza would explain it better than me, basically its a lot more reliant on datalink compared other missiles due to hoe mediocre its seekerhead is
Its only gonna have a better pull as long as you go over mach 0.8 to mach 1
Any lower and it won’t pull that well
Irl yeah the seeker had guidance issues and needed to rely on datalink a lot
basically fixed aam4 would have much worse close range ability due to proxy fuse, fairly worse seekerhead, betterdatalink capability, better kinematic performance in terms of acceleration and speed due to more motor, and worse maneuverability and limited to 25 gs