2024 for orignal SM.*
No F-15 was using PW-229 in 1989, the first were using it in the late 1990s at the earliest, likely early 2000s.
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Su-35 would be far better than the SM2 by weight alone and by the time Su-35 gets added more systems will be introduced in war thunder
It’s the same with the Rafale and EFT btw, since most upgrades for the airframe only tackles avionics and US has a potential monster with the EX with the GE129 but then again they could just get the SA with more pylons and AESA radar
Edit: nvm SA gets a GE129 lol
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One second faster to impact in literally the perfect scenario which we all know isn’t representative of a real game.
Targets will maneuver and 30SM being slow it means enemies will reach altitude much quicker and with more speed, so testing both missiles with same launch parameters is straight up invalid.
How about you try 10km, because at 20km it’s obvious 120B is better ?
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Lol, lmao even
F-15E is the best plane in top tier after the EF and Rafale, and this third party system says i am way better therefore I am more right than you (half the stuff you say are nonsense + you get proven wrong everytime you post a comment on any post)
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Su30sm2 was ordered in 2020.
I said the engine is from 1989. Not the f15e with the engine. The pw229 is older than the 155e with the pw229
Arent these literally the only 14.0s in game lol? No shit. After next update f15 will be the 4th with the list likely being: ef2000, su30sm, rafale, f15e, f/a18c, f18c.
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According to your post statpadding = more knowledge… got it.
F-15C/E are good, they’re competitive jets, just as the Su-30SM will be a competitive jet.
Yes, thats the point.
Also, F-18 is probably DOA
It has 1.1 seconds to burn to compensate for the extra drag compared to an aim120 . Also 1.1 second is absolutely significant. The missile will be absolutely a great missile. But it has tradeoffs.
Loke you guys are absurd with how much youre downplaying the r77-1 effectiveness. Its just as stupid as the dudes complaing that its going to be op.
Finnish f18c is ass. F/a18c will probably be playable. Not competitive but playable
Yeah, i am more interested on the A version at 12.3 ngl, C late is not going to have a great time going subsonic all the time
I was hyped for the a version once i heard aim7ps were being added to the game. Yet we aint getting it on any tt navy aircraft besides the f/a18c. Absolute dreadfull the f14b absolutely needs it
Behind a 70 something $ pay wall
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That drag will still kill it’s performance against something maneuvering. Missile will surely be better than R-77 and will be able to actually hit targets at 10km+.
I’m not downplaying it, I’m just stating what I see.
Raw missile performance indicates it’ll be better than 120B at closer ranges while still falling behind in longer ranges.
30SM is also pretty slow which further decreases the effectiveness of the missile, so the carriers should be taken into consideration as well.
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It has lower drag than r77. And it has a better motor on top of that.
At close ranges aim120 is pretty useless in my experience(datalink helps ofc) so thats nothing to scoff at, and imo believe itll be better than it at medium range. Its pointless to discuss it too much as well see in a week’s time but imo itl be the most versatile missile in the game even more than pl12.
Yes, it’ll take 15km to fall out of the air instead of 10km on R-77.
Indeed.
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R77-1 may be better against a non maneuvering target but it has significantly more drag than a 120. That will reduce bvr perfomance by quite a bit.
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Probably yes, but at pure BVR performance it will be the best of them all
Has stronger motor too. If used properly at altitude and at speed itll likely reach 30km+ and hit a non defensive target consistently.
Mind you that amraams also dont hit often at those ranges, cranking and notchin is very easy when you have that much time