Nah, I think EFT (It’s a really good aircraft) and Rafale would still dominate
at mach 1.18 at 6000 meters there is like a whole second of difference for the r77-1 to burn against a maneuvering target. r-77-1 will be great stop downplaying it.
nah sm2 with al41 would absolutely dominate(not saying its necessarily a bad thing). r73s would be the worst part of the aircraft and theyre fairly good fox2s
It still doesn’t beat out the EFT with raw power alone, and you know how good the EFT’s turn is even with the nerf to high speed turns. But until we get the ingame values for it, we can only speculate
eft doesnt have tvc.
Mirage 2000D RMV is from 2021
I personally see adding the 41’s as an action that will cause issues later down the road. The AL41 is the pinnacle of Russian engine design, and there is nothing past that save other variants of the same engine. Adding the pinnacle now will only cause complaints later on, with people likely complaing about “uughhh same engines no difference” for the next slew of Russian aircraft. IMO it is far better to save them for the Su35S, 30SM2, and 57 than add them a bit prematurely. The comparison to the 229 engines on the Strike Eagle is misconstrued as the engines were only an issue because the Israeli version was getting them while the American one was not. Now I could see the AL41’s being reasonable if say, China got a Su35S or whatever with 41’s and Russia did not. However, I see no reason to dimish the performance jump of future aircraft for the sake of a likely-to-be short lived (in game) multirole upgrade to the Russky Flanker fleet before we get the Su35S quite soon.
It’s a gimmick that’s has more cons than pro when you use it
2024 for orignal SM.*
No F-15 was using PW-229 in 1989, the first were using it in the late 1990s at the earliest, likely early 2000s.
Su-35 would be far better than the SM2 by weight alone and by the time Su-35 gets added more systems will be introduced in war thunder
It’s the same with the Rafale and EFT btw, since most upgrades for the airframe only tackles avionics and US has a potential monster with the EX with the GE129 but then again they could just get the SA with more pylons and AESA radar
Edit: nvm SA gets a GE129 lol
One second faster to impact in literally the perfect scenario which we all know isn’t representative of a real game.
Targets will maneuver and 30SM being slow it means enemies will reach altitude much quicker and with more speed, so testing both missiles with same launch parameters is straight up invalid.
How about you try 10km, because at 20km it’s obvious 120B is better ?
Lol, lmao even
F-15E is the best plane in top tier after the EF and Rafale, and this third party system says i am way better therefore I am more right than you (half the stuff you say are nonsense + you get proven wrong everytime you post a comment on any post)
Su30sm2 was ordered in 2020.
I said the engine is from 1989. Not the f15e with the engine. The pw229 is older than the 155e with the pw229
Arent these literally the only 14.0s in game lol? No shit. After next update f15 will be the 4th with the list likely being: ef2000, su30sm, rafale, f15e, f/a18c, f18c.
@Leinadmix9_ツ
According to your post statpadding = more knowledge… got it.
F-15C/E are good, they’re competitive jets, just as the Su-30SM will be a competitive jet.
Yes, thats the point.
Also, F-18 is probably DOA
It has 1.1 seconds to burn to compensate for the extra drag compared to an aim120 . Also 1.1 second is absolutely significant. The missile will be absolutely a great missile. But it has tradeoffs.
Loke you guys are absurd with how much youre downplaying the r77-1 effectiveness. Its just as stupid as the dudes complaing that its going to be op.
Finnish f18c is ass. F/a18c will probably be playable. Not competitive but playable
Yeah, i am more interested on the A version at 12.3 ngl, C late is not going to have a great time going subsonic all the time
I was hyped for the a version once i heard aim7ps were being added to the game. Yet we aint getting it on any tt navy aircraft besides the f/a18c. Absolute dreadfull the f14b absolutely needs it