The biggest issue right now is that I can just spend money to get an aircraft equipped with China’s top-tier missiles, which also boasts excellent air combat performance and top-tier CAS capabilities. So then, what’s the point of grinding through the Chinese tech tree at all?
Why is gaijin like this…
at least this is free food for the real top tiers as its a 13.3
But it actually boasts the best CAS capabilities across the entire Chinese tree.
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pretty fitting for that tree tbh
it seems all types of fox except mica/r77-1 are the same to gaijin, with no exception when it comes to r77 and pl12
thought id put this here for subjects about premiums
Considering that it still uses the infamous inverted Cassegrain antenna, placing it at 13.7 is already considered too high.
Given Gaijin’s confused understanding of missile performance, it may not recognize that the PL-12 is fundamentally different from the R-77, just as it considers the Python 3 to be a top-tier infrared missile.
Just that the Pl12 is so incredibly potent that it can perform in any given scenario, its a better Aim120 if you will since it sacrafices 30km+ shot performance (which is useless in the current top tier environment anyways) for way better HOBS performance while remaining tied around the mid range mark. Comparing this to the R77 which falls out of the air after like 10kms while only offering a marginal improvement in short range engagements just doesnt sit quite right with me, and let’s not even start with the PL8B vs R73 debate, its not even close, the only downside the PL8 has is the lack of TV (irrelevant unless you end up in a sub 500km/h dogfight). The chinese missile kit is just vastly superior hence why the J11B didnt move to 13.3 last patch, wheras the A did
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nah its mainly because its engine and radar, r77 is equivalent to pl12 to gaijin (they consider all fox3 same except r77-1/mica/aim54)
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There’s nothing exceptionally strong about the 30MKK here.
There’s nothing pay to win about this… the tech tree stuff is as good and better than this for the BR.
Same br in sim
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Same br in btw:
- Fox 1 vs Fox 3
- Unguided vs guided
- No targeting pod (Eyeball mk 1) Vs Kh 59ME
I wonder which costs 80$ and which one can be unlocked for free.
Certified Alvis take
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well that just gaijin destroying sim.
dont take sim as a exemple.
@Parched_Leech out here defending the sim BRs because I complain about the BRs instead of agreeing with me that BRs are an issue.
So what’s wrong about me wanting Su-30MKK to be 13.7 along with other aircraft moved up?
BVVD moment.
Unfortunatley it’s true.
@Parched_Leech out here defending the sim BRs because I complain about the BRs instead of agreeing with me that BRs are an issue.
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- Person 1 asserts proposition X.
- Person 2 argues against a superficially similar proposition Y, as though an argument against Y were an argument against X.
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Except that’s not what makes something pay to win.
For something to be pay to win, it has to be better than ALL of the options available.
It’s worse than some 13.7s [F-15s] and as good as some 13.3s [Su-30MK2 and J-11A].
That’s why I complain about 13.3 - 14.0 as a whole having these under-BR’d jets.
According to who?
For a second, imagine that all of top tier was premium.
How would you identify which jet is the best?
People are going crazy trying to see which is the better jet the Rafale or the su30sm2.
Following your definition how do you arrive at a consensus? Is it via specs? In game performance? Stats?
It’s worse than some 13.7s [F-15s]
It’s worse than something at a higher br? What a shocker.
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Also congrats getting my response flagged and taken down. I didn’t think that
Would get under your skin.
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This forum is a JOKE.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY RESPONSES gets flagged and sent to the gulag.
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Not entirely true, the R77-1 was added entirely on the premise that the R77 is vastly inferior and underwhelming, even the R27EA was talked about for some time even after the R77-1 was added, whereas the addition of the PL12A is neither needed nor highly requested since the PL12 is just that competitive
It’s not a MK2 at all, the MKK is the one that has been seen with PL-12’s and PL-8’s.