The only difference between the N001VEP and the N001VE is that it offers a slightly better detection range and enhanced capabilities for tracking multiple targets, though they behave similarly in close-range combat.
And the SU-30MKK has the option to use the Chinese variant of the R-77 or the Chinese variant of the AIM-120.
These premiums are capable enough to be minimum at 13.7, it has the big payload, the same radar of SU-27SM and the engines of the SU-27 (Which it doesn’t make it slow or goofy enough to be an exception).
It’s not smart for GAIJIN to base its aircraft placement decisions on win-loss statistics, as it depends on the pilot. As you know, most players are low-level, barely know how to fly piston-engine planes, and buy their way to the top tier. But that doesn’t make a plane bad enough to be in a BR that easily outclasses other planes in the 12.3 to 13.3 range.
The average player and experienced players will find it very easy to take advantage of the low BR it’s in, and I don’t see experienced top-tier players struggling.
It has the worst RWR indeed but it is still perfectly usable for notching and it also haw MAWS which further helps you angling against the missile with the sectorial RWR. But even with the old su-27 sectorial RWR, when you put the missile in the 90º sector you are notching it. If you are at high speeds the mica will still find you if your angle isn’t top-notch, no pun intended.
So in terms of RWR, the maws balances it out somewhat. Then the J-11A has the better FM.
R-77 vs PL-12 depends on how you play it. The PL-12 is more polivalent but R-77 is more agile for short range. I like the PL-12 better overall but the R-77 is still nice.
I like farming the idiots that fly this boat in my kfir. I actually won quite a few end game duels agains them by just sitting on my engine like a fatass and taking things slow, they simply never get an angle to fire an R73 and usually have piss aim since, well, they’re bad at the game.
But for the sake of the game this thing should be nuked and upbr’d into oblivion, I can’t wait to see whales cry on here that the SU30 sucks, we already have them crying about the F18CE sucking now (rofl).
I mean knowing what is launched at you is necessary, and the fact that it doesn’t suggest anything past a very narrow angle sucks. The plane itself has nothing to do with J-11B or Su27SM in terms of fly performance or radar. The single data link also forbids u from taking fights outside of 16km effectively.
I dont recall that being a general rule (as i seen it going both ways) but, no offense, I couldnt care less to continue this argument as there is nothing to gain in continuing arguing whenever gajin does or does not usually adress some changes within first post.
Gaijin can decide to completly ignore any feedback as they usually do anyways.
It has noticeable better FM, that’s why its a sidegrade in my opinion.
J-11A, J-11, Su-27 and Su-27SM all have similar radars. The J-11A has the exact same FM as the J-11 which is essencially a Su-27 with extra 570kg, its just a bit worse than the Su-27. The Su-27SM and Su-27 are not very different in terms of dogfight performance, the Su-27 is lighter and the SM has more thrust but not enough to make it noticeably better. The J-11B is a lighter Su-27 so it is around Su-27SM performance level in energy retention but it will turn a bit faster than any other flanker
The Su-30mk2 is 740kg heavier than the J-11A and is more draggy too, thats why I consider the J-11A a sidegrade. Worse RWR, but better FM and MAWS, the loadout is debatable.
You shouldn’t launch R-77 outside of their own built in radar lock range anyway.
The J-11A only has access to the R-77, and the aircraft’s RWR is awful, and its MAW isn’t all that great either.
How many J11s have you seen in the game so far? Because I haven’t seen any.
It’s quite complicated dealing with su30mk2 and mkk on 13.3, I face these planes with F-20s and MiG-21 Bisons.
It’s simply bizarre.13.0 series aircraft are suffering greatly because of the Su-30; it’s simply unplayable.
Previously, the 13.3 series aircraft were fighters with limited payloads, such as the MiG-29SMT/N, F-16D/ADF/MLU and JF-17.
Instigating that 13.3 line for the SU30 was an absurd mistake.
I tried to warn that this was going to happen (because it was obvious).
Aircraft such as the Kunas 2000, F-4J Kai, F-20, MiG-21 Bison, JH-7A, F-18A/C Early, F-2 (Primium), J-8F, Su-33, Su-27, F-15A, and others have no chance against these aircraft.
Even the J11A is inferior to these aircraft.
It uses the Su-27 radar with 1 DL, and the Su-27’s RWR is also terrible.
While the Su-30MKK and MK2 use the same radar as the Su-27SM and have a functional digital RWR.
The only thing the J11A has that’s slightly better is its FM because it’s lighter… The J11A has so many problems that it could be a 13.3, but the SU30MK2 and MKK are two-seater J11A models without its major flaws.
Situational awareness and better radar speak much louder than a slightly better FM.
Even the Su-34, which is a boat, is higher br than the Su-30MKK and MK2.
yup su34 is worse and has higher BR. After they sell enough units they gona nerf it, ppl never learn. Gajin despesperate for money reason they added this plane and the terminator vehicle. Game does not need those planes, mig23ML is much better to grind.
