Su-27 SIM BR

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Womp womp.

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JA37C which is notable less powerful than MLD

AIm-9Ps vs R-60Ms
Skyflash DFs vs R-24s
48 LCMs vs 60 LCMs

Has no IFF and relatively weak rear aspect IR missiles only (and only 2 of them)

Spends 50% of its time on the same team as the MLD

If you are being killed by an A-10C in a Mig-23MLD that is a major skill issue

Id argue that it actually gets 3/4 rotations. It is imo, the second strongest jet at 11.7 behind the Mirage F1C-200. So it gets R1 and R4 at 11.7 and R2 at 11.3 where it can comfortable dominate most aircraft. But quite a few 11.3s and even a few 11.7s are forced to always fight the MLD without reprieve. Like the Tornado Gr1, Sea Harrier FRS1 Kfir Canard, heck Id also include the AMX A-1A if it wasnt always paired with the MLD. Which is really unfair. Either it shouldnt have moved down or a LOT of 11.3s should be at 11.0

90% of Bluefors 11.3/11.7 line up is ground attackers with most actual fighters meant to fight the MLD at 12.0 or higher

It would be like putting the Tornado F3 at 11.7 just because it doesnt turn well. its kinda insane the MLD moved down

congratulations. This doesnt just affect the Su-27SM. This also affects the Tornado F3 Late and F4 which has a major disadvantage vs even something like the Su-27SM, let alone the F-15Cs or Gripen Cs. Soviets are not the only ones affected by the lack of 13.3 bracket, much in the same way, many nations were screwed by the lack of 11.7 bracket for the entirety of 2023 or the lack of a 12.3 bracket right now. harrier Gr7 forced to be at 12.7 rather sucks and also halves the brackets where Tornado F3 might be viable as it instead fights 12.7s or 13.0s and that is too big of a leap for it. At least with its current CMs

Yeah add me and duel me. I love losing i just usually don’t so please induldge me

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Even if you were to use the TWS mode to softlock an enemy, what use would it have?
You imply that its bad refresh rate would be useful if it were better… What would you use it for?

The F-14A has a legitimate purpose for soft-locks. The Su-27 doesn’t.

So… It has the same modes as the Su-27 with far less functionality… Got it.

Oh my! 3 different ACM modes?

Too bad HMD entirely trumps that…

What it loses in offense it gains in defense… Great.

Because it would be largely unfair and VERY dominant when it comes to 12.0/12.3 aircraft it would face.
Why would it need to lower to 13.0 in the first place?

I’d put the AV-8B+ above both, given its radar, larger range of RWR contacts, and general multirole ability.
Also the possibility of an HMCS in the future… Not too sure on the feasibility of it being added, though it is possible for it to be integrated into the 8B+.

It shouldn’t.

Good point there, it would populate lower brackets quite well.

I sent invite. I’m waiting

For…?

Duel. F15A vs Su 27

Have I not already done that?

it is pd radar

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Woops, Read the wiki wrong

Read:

Non Pulse-Doppler radar locks onto chaff easily

as

non pulse doppler radar

My bad

but still, Id give the MLD the point in BVR with R-24Rs

Which will win?

AIM-7E-2 (Gaijin’s favorite missile, moves as fast as a snail) vs R-24R (how the hell did this thing just pull 30gs half a second off the rail)

And you maintain that su27 is better correct? So keep proving youself wrong and duel

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You still stand by this. F15A vs Su 27

The radar on the Su 27s arent great either. If you in your infinite Flanker wisdom can prove it then duel me.

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Yes, it is

Then duel

Absolutely, is there a reason I wouldn’t?

Ah yes, BFM to prove radar strength

You also said BFM. Stop ducking bro

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didnt you know?
better radar makes you better in BFM)

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