EVERY fuckin IRAAM that isn’t Magic 2 / 9L/i / 9M / R73 is going to eat 1 flare. learn to 3rd party with a goddamn All-aspect. don’t do tail chase.
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and this is the exact same with Aim-9L on aircraft like the Tornado. Especially if its vs a large calibre flare such as that dropped by a Mig-23 or Su-24.
Though i’ve heard that firing R-60M at close range in front aspect is rather deadly
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With a joke, We all are well aware that Gaijin loves to overrate every strike aircraft in ARB to an unusable level.
But really, I am not recommending you dogfight against a fighter jet if you are flying strike aircraft.
They will eat you alive easily.
The whole ARB mode is forcing any strike aircraft players to quit. :/
You can’t beat MiG-23ML or F-4S either in a dogfight or a base bombing.
All we can do is suffer until Gaijin revamps ARB.
But, if I were you, I wouldn’t do the worst thing that it can do worst… :(
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Are you bringing more than 2 for 1 base?
Your rewards per base is basically cut in half if you bring 4. There is no reason ever to bring more than 1000kg of napalm ever, it slows you down significantly when you already have a bad time base racing, and again, try it out if you dont believe me but bring 4 and see what you get per base vs bringing only 2.
Okay tbf Su-24 is in a rough spot because its so…slow… like its horrible, you normally won’t get to a base, so you’re forced to play as a fighter in order to get any progress, i think i have a positive KD. Compared for the 11.7 BR the F111F stock was just the most mind numbing watch vids on my phone and get 3 kills gameplay after bombing a base. I think the Su-24 and other bombers would be better if fighters couldn’t take their primary role from them.
Yeah, which is just an ARB problem for everything and less so a Su-24 specific issue. Like trying to get any base kills in the Buc S2B at 10.7 is almost impossible or the Jaguar IS at 11.3
A strike aircraft that can get a base kill is more of an exception to the rule
Youve heard wrong.
Mig 23ML flying with napalm on the belly and 2 R24R are the biggest problem. Honestly the urge to kill fighters that focus on base bombing is very hard lol.
We need restrictions on fighters so that we don’t have skilless parasites being the majority of a team. It was one of the reasons when i was spading the F-5A(G)-40 that i could pull 6 kill games consistently. People play as a bomber and grind to top tier and then when they buy stuff like the J7E or the F5E FCU they are food for an inferior fighter because they have no idea what they are doing or they continue to try and base bomb lmao.
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Yup, that is a major issue as well
Eh, theres some truth to it, it has very fast reaction time. Ive found if you wait most people just dont expect you to fire a R60M at .5km which just means they do occasionally get clapped. Not always but compared to 9L which is slower off the rail it does work, just not as well as some would claim.
(I played the Mig 27, Su-17, Su-24, ect ect like this when i ran out of ammo. Mig 27 is the best at it imo and absolutely worth a try at flying if you want a gun fighter mig because that gun is pure sex imo)
From my experience they never manage to pull in when fired THAT close. Id say 700 to 800m is the minimum for frontal aspect shots but i guess that depends on the speed of the launching plane.
Point is, frontal aspect launch is more about luck than calculated move. Seekers FoV is too big so simple flare pop and ever so slightly changing heading is all it takes to defeat them.
Oh absolutely it definitely is luck i womt deny that, gotta hope they aren’t pre-flaring
Which I always do when passing close to the nose of something with an R-60M. Not worth the risk to not pre-flare like mad
Same game, we moved up to 13.7 after and i pulled about 1-2 kills per game because people just aren’t ready for you to be hunting them in the Vark, i fire 9L’s from about 5-6km
I flew back to base like this btw lmao, for real my team should be disappointed in themselves, in no world should i have been in 1st lmao.
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Lmao
Id also say its highly BR dependent.
Love me some R-60MKs on Bis SAU, nearly had a stroke when I had to play them on 9.12A (that was back before BOL nerf, during the terror reign of Gripen A).
Very fair, honestly id take R13M1 over R60M for most engagements, R60M choosing between an engine 1 meter in front of it or a flare on the edge of its seeker 10km away it goes for the flare.
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Unless its a harrier.
Depends on if i fed the snail recently at that point