Stug III Ausf G 1944 (July)

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Welcome to the suggestion for the Stug III Ausf G 1944 July production. In War Thunder, this would become an addition to the Italian tree as part of the Hungarian sub-tree. This mid-1944 version of the Stug III Ausf G has many new modifications compared to the already present in-game Stug III G 1943 but it is not the most advanced Stug III G which would be the December 1944 version suggested for Germany.

The most notable differences when compared to the in-game 1943 Stug III G are the Saukopf mantlet, the homogenous (non-bolted) 80mm plates of the lower front plates, and the right side upper superstructure, the shot deflector in front of the commander’s cupola, external barrel support, Zimmerite, and lastly, standardized stowage frame around the engine.
Some of these modifications would increase the survivability of this assault gun by eliminating weak spots or by making them harder to penetrate depending on the opponent’s armament.

History

In August and September 1944 the Royal Hungarian 7th Honvéd Assault Gunner Battalion got 40 StuG III G from the Germans in total. These StuG III G assault guns were new, without any paintings. The assault guns’ main structure didn’t receive any markings, the Hungarian serial numbers - and in some cases the white cross - were painted only on the Schürzen of these vehicles. The serial numbers of the Hungarian 7th Assault Gunner Battalion were three digit numbers, always starting with 7 which was the Battalion’s number, the second number was either 0, 1, 2 or 3, depending on the number of the Battery with 0 being the Battalion’s HQ, the last number was the actual number of the vehicle with 0 being the commander’s.

The reason why I refer to this specific suggested Stug III Ausf G as “1944 July production” is that the latest modification that is present on all Hungarian-operated Stugs in the linked newsreel is the travel clamp that was introduced in July 1944. Furthermore, the presence of homogenous frontal armor plates also points towards a mid-1944 or July production as the bolted 50mm+30mm solution was phased out in June 1944. “The Hungarian military received an additional 40 StuG III Ausf. G assault guns, which were used to equip the 7th Assault Gun Battalion in August 1944.” Hungarian Arms and Armour of World War Two (Peter Mujzer)

Modifications:

Saukopf mantlet

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Solid 80mm plates for lower frontal hull "nose" plates& right front superstructure

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Zimmerite


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Travel clamp

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Standardised stowage frame

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Standardized steel shot deflector

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Sturmgeschütz & Its Variants, Sturmgeschütz III and IV 1942–45 and the newsreel are the sources for the images and photographs above.

Sources

Filmhíradók Online / Harci bevetésen a magyar ifjúság from 1:20
Sturmgeschütz & Its Variants | Walter J. Spielberger | download on Z-Library Sturmgeschutz & Its Variants by Walter Spielberger
Sturmgeschutz & Its Variants: (Spielberger German Armor & Military Vehicles Series, Vol 2)
Hungarian Arms and Armour of World War Two | Peter Mujzer | download on Z-Library Arms and Armour of World War Two by Peter Mujzer
Sturmgeschütz III and IV 1942–45 (Amazon link) Sturmgeschütz III and IV 1942–45 | Tom Jentz, Hilary Doyle, Peter Sarson (Illustrator) , Mike Fuller (Illustrator) | download on Z-Library

Photographs&Newsreel

Filmhíradók Online / Harci bevetésen a magyar ifjúság from 1:20
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This and the Hetzer might as well would be able to provide a 4.3 line-up for italy. As long as the December 1944 variant is not coming for germany, I don’t see the place in the game for it, but as soon as that particular vehichle is finally here, than it could be a fine addition.

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Btw, do we know what color-sheme they used? I only find this 3 camo on Tank encyclopedia: man, on the site they load in painfully slowly, they might have to do something about that…
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But I don’t know how correct they are.
Hopefully this time, we won’t get fully green Stug’s just like in the case of Tigris. Or was that historical, and I just missed something.

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The Tigris camo is not historical, in fact, none of the Gaijin-made camouflage colors are historical as they are either Kubinka paint jobs or pure fantasy.
In the case of the Stugs, to me it seems like they have a 2 tone camo in some pictures but mostly they look to be default sand/yellow colored

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I knew the tricolor is off but the green one too?

What we know is that the Krayer factory was the sole paint supplier for the Hungarian army. Both for aviation and ground vehicles they were the source. There are photographs of color sample booklets from them both for aviation and ground, but to make a report there needs to be more research. György Punka wrote a book on the camo colors used by the Hungarian aviation.
So I don’t know how accurate the green tone is, but I never heard of the Tigers receiving a repaint…So its semi-historical for sure. Def not as bad as the tricolor and others.

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