Stu-40 - Sturmi the Finnish mainstay

I was wondering when this would show up here, glad to see that someone finally made the suggestion post for the Sturmi. Personally I find it very strange that this hasn’t already been added to the Finnish subtree yet, since the Sturmi is one of the more well-known vehicles used by the Finnish army (maybe due to Gaijins increasing focus on more modern vehicles, but I digress).

I’d like to see both the 1944 and post-war modifications added to the game as they would bring an interesting twist on the StuG Ausf.G’s. But if I had to pick one over the other it has to go to the 1944 mod, you just can’t beat those sleek sidelogs. The 1943 mod is definitely the least interesting of the bunch, since it would basically just be a copypaste StuG Ausf.G. That said getting any variant of the Sturmi would be a huge win in my book.

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That’s very much what I thought as well. StuG seemed like the first thing to add into Finnish tree as it was the most numerous vehicle that could properly fight against Soviet tanks and remained as such for long.

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Fun fact: Finnish developed an APDS shell for PaK 40 in early 1960s, though it didn’t get into production.

If I could choose by myself, I would add 1944 modification in tech tree and post-war modification as premium.

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Did Finland ever use any StuH 42?

No they did not, though some were operated by German forces who were deployed on Southern Finnish front in summer 1944.

Yeah having the 1944 mod in the techtree and the post-war mod as a premium would be a solid compromise. Although now that Gaijin has started to folder more vehicles I see a possibility where the post-war mod is foldered with the 1944, this might just be whisful thinking though…

In general I would like to see more of the ww2 equipment that Finland used (and sometimes modified) in War Thunder, especially the KV-1’s and the ISU-152’s. It’s kind of weird that none of the KV’-1s have been added yet, as they would finally give the Swedish techtree some heavy tanks to complete tasks with…

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Any information on the APDS round? :>

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From FINNISH ARMY 1918 - 1945: ANTITANK GUNS PART 2 just this:

“One might wonder how successful 75 K/40 could have been as antitank-weapon for example in 1960’s. The Cold War era tank development kept tank development going hard and new generation of better armoured tanks would have been a hard nut to crack with world War 2 ammunition used in 75 K/40. Finnish military was aware of this and circa 1960 - 1961 it was testing new APDS-type ammunition capable for 220-mm armour penetration from shooting distance of 1,000 meters with 90-degree angle of impact. However apparently this new ammunition type did not see mass production.”

No idea about the source as he lists so many. It could be from Finnish archives.

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Help still needed!!
If we hope to have the 1944 or post war modified StuGs, we need to find someone to measure thickness of these add-on armor pieces:
-driver’s visor
-loader’s front plate
-commader’s deflector plate
-concrete
-logs

Many of these StuGs still exists in Finland and few in foreign museums. You can check their location from list or one by one from photos.

531-44 in Bovington Tank Museum has most of the 1944 modifications.

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I voted for post war, but I would be happy with any of them. +1

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What is the loader’s front plate? Also, for the commander’s plate, I don’t know if this helps but here is this image from my topic:

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Thank you! The cupola shield looks very much the same.

I’m not quite certain what the loader’s add-on armor is made of. Somewhere Larka mentioned a welded steel plate and in other part 50mm of concrete. It could be both.

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It seems to reach all the way to the hatch on the hull.

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I did vote the 1944 modification, but i think the best way to implement this, would be to have it as the 1943 modification as standard and then it is possible to install the 1944 modification as an uparmor package, like the modules for the Pz IV H that adds tracklinks to their hull and turret.

No. It is too important of a vehicle to be treated in that fashion, plus none of the numerously identical T-34s function like this in-game. For example, you can’t get a T-3485 by installing a 1944 modification on a T-34 (1940) and neither should it be with the Stug III G

The more Sturmis the merrier I’d say, but I think seeing at least two variants in-game would be ideal. Here’s a rather good picture from 1951 showing both an earlier and a later G model in post-war configuration, and how they’ve been modified in different ways when it comes to storage, headlights, etc

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Just a bunch of nice StuG photos.




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Pair of these drivable StuGs still appear in parades and few movies as well. These photos are from 2006-2016.




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Perhaps the 1943 modification could go into the tech-tree and the 1944 one could be added as a premium.

To me the concrete armor, logs and extra plates look like premium material.

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Help is still needed to measure the add-on armor pieces.

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If it were me I would add each variant ('43, '44, postwar) separately, possibly in a folder

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Some extra pictures to add to the topic, from Wikimedia Commons.

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Also notable is a good shot of the DT mount in this picture.

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Hopefully we see this in-game one day, ideally in separate variants.

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