Could you send the source for that? :)
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it’s purposed to be a CV9035 MKiiiC (and very likely will be) but not fully decided yet. What is happening now is an order for a preliminary design proposal with a list of components and their cost, this will be negotiated/changed and then set at the start of 2024 when the actual order (for the then decided design and specifications) will be made.
Thank you! :)
speaking of which, readinf the cut part of secondary armament, can see the newer leopards /coming 2A8 switching to the MG4 now, they already in the progress of changing the PUMA ones as well.
Would be a small and intresting upgrade as well
The 2a7 also gets d-tech hull armor internal and external. The ammo storage shouldn’t be a problem if the German Leo’s get dm63 due to dm63 beaning very hard to detonate.
The 2A7 had in some way improved protection over the 2A5 but there’s no info on what was improved. It might have been the additional side armour, it might have been improved composites or it might even have been the mine protection.
what we at least can assume so far is that the hull is either the 2A6M CAN that has improved mine protection both outside and inside the hull as well as extra external armour in the same fashion as the Strv 122B, the external armor might be a newer generation compared to the Strv 122B but we don’t know. These were bought for the purpose of conversion to 2A7. so either it has the same protection as 2A6M CAN or they changed out the hull for a newly built one and only kept the turret from the 2A6M CAN which would mean that they are a newer gen base armor compared to the 2A6M CAN. because you would not make that exchange if its the same armor. unless the base hull for the 2A7 is different enough in other areas that conversion of the hull is not possible.
Nice information book/sheet, can i get the name of this document?
Gesamtwerk Leopard 2 The Full Story of the Leopard 2 Main Battle Tank and the Leopard 2-based Combat Support Vehicles - Frank Lobitz
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And why not?
They confirmed mid 2022 that there will be a 2A7 and I bet it’s gonna be the base model first.
You’re right though that it’s not really an improvement. A lot heavier and still crappy thermals + even using optimistic estimates for a D hull it would protect against precisely nothing at top tier and only reliably stops 3BM46.
I’d argue it’s a sidegrade at best, the weight increase just isn’t worth it.
DM63 will detonate like every other shell. They won’t give a decreased explosion chance for a single vehicle.
Except test results shows its the quite opposite.
İrl DM63 is almost immune to getting explode by fire or enemy shell.
And Gaijin will not implement this for ingame purposes.
Considering M338 shell also does have this feature irl and Gaijin didnt implemented, you’re probably right about that.
Base model 2A7 has no confirmed upgrades over the 2a6 that would be relevant fpr in the game, base one would be a useless addition at that point 2A6EX , 2E, or PSO-VT ,would be better options
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They… they already have?
some of the soviet shells are “diesel soaked” in secondary racks and has a lower risk of exploding. (though Gaijin has implemented this to the shells in the autoloader as well which isn’t comparable to real life). so why wouldn’t they add the same thing to the DM63?
The only thing changed from DM53 to DM63 is the propellant and bottom of the casing. the new propellant has a lower risk of unwanted detonation, isn’t temperature dependant and gives a higher pressure (and thus higher muzzle velocity). The new casing bottom is just to be able to handle the higher pressure.