STRV 122 Technical Data and Discussion

[warhead_beast]

Thanks, will be corrected

[warhead_beast]

@Jεcka

That is, generally speaking, incorrect. Although the Leopard 2A5 and Strv 122 share a common ancestor (TVM max), they ultimately are not related in the way you’re implying they are:

Leopard 2 KVT > Leopard 2 IVT > Leopard 2 TVM (max/min) > Strv 122(A)
Leopard 2 KVT > Leopard 2 IVT > Leopard 2 TVM (max/min) - > Leopard 2 TVM mod (there might have been a mod 2 as well, but that hasn’t been confirmed so far, I think). > Leopard 2A5

Their shared ancestry ends at the TVM max; from there on they went their separate ways, with Germany constructing an additional test vehicle based on the previously agreed-upon Mannheim configuration by themselves, the Netherlands, and Switzerland.

A more correct description would be that Strv 122 is a modified version of a pre-Leopard 2A5 prototype, or that it’s a cousin of the Leopard 2A5, but not that Strv 122 is a modified version of the Leopard 2A5.

All right guess I’ll have to update the history then XD

@Jεcka

The C/D variants do not have upgraded thermals. There is no primary source to confirm that, neither from Germany’s Hensoldt, nor from Sweden’s FMV. The only sources that mention this being a potential (or in case of the latter, done) upgrade, are a blog by SH_MM (dated to 2016), and a website called Fighting-Vehicles (which doesn’t actually cite where they got that information from…).

So do we know anything on the C Upgrade?

[Necronomica]

@warhead_beast

So do we know anything on the C Upgrade?

It’s basically just the designation for an A version that received maintenance parts and replacement parts (the designation C is mostly to keep track of which tank has already gone through the maintenance/ mini upgrade and not get them mixed up).
The biggest change was new radios and communication equipment as well as a new central computer.
The A → C and the B → D with these additions.

[warhead_beast]

2 Questions: shouldnt the A also have the redesigned hull ammo storage and why was the ammo storage changed in the first place?

Okay 3rd Question, has there been any developments in regards to new ammunition or is the m95 still the most modern shell used by the swedish army?

[warhead_beast]

Could it be that the Strv 122A in game actually is a C?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/TpZjOSTsBJ7F
found a bug report on it

[MythicPi]

Btw, my suggestion for the SAAB Barracuda MCS has been passed to the devs recently:

Functional Barracuda MCS modification

poll With the ever growing proliferation of aerial vehicles with high performance targeting pods, and long range precision munitions, I think its a good time to discuss some modern solutions to the problem. In this specific case, I am speaking of the introduction and implementation of Barracuda MCS as a mod for western vehicles with access to it, most famous of which is likely the Strv122, but some other vehicles also have access to it, some of which (the Challenger 2’s) already have it in-game,…

[Jεcka]

@warhead_beast

2 Questions: shouldnt the A also have the redesigned hull ammo storage and why was the ammo storage changed in the first place?

To better cope with mines & IEDS, the “redesigned” (it’s really just a reduced in size stowage) has become a thing with the 2A6M in ~2006/7, so no, the Strv 122A would not have it.

Okay 3rd Question, has there been any developments in regards to new ammunition or is the m95 still the most modern shell used by the swedish army?

For the time being it’s just M/95 as there have been no mentions of them acquiring DM83.

[warhead_beast]

finally came around to redoing the history,
i now got acess to the Leopard 2 Gesamtwerk by Tankograd which covers the 122 in more detail

[warhead_beast]

Also we really have STRVC/D in game and not A/B

storage weher ethe tracklink on the A/B is

But it appears we still have the antenna of the A/B?

[dotSHINI]

I think there is already a report about that

[warhead_beast]

Big news everybody
https://www.hartpunkt.de/schweden-kauft-leopard-2-a8-und-modernisiert-bestandsflotte/

Sweden buys 44 Leopard 2A8 tanks and modernizes 66 more

Some of the modernizations have already started

[warhead_beast]

Parkour

Do I get any points for parkour?

[JUICYTITAN1011]

STRV 122B+ has incorrect lower front plate armor. // Gaijin.net // Issues

[Fjord]

Is the thermal resolution on the 122’s correct? Even with upgrade packages such as 122C/122D? Feels crazy to me that Sweden would be running old thermal imagers in this day and age

[Necronomica]

Sadly i think they are correct. The 122’s have been electronically behind for a quite a while.

The upgrade A/B is just mine protection and climate units for international service.

The C/D is mostly a maintenance thing where they changed the communication systems and some “wear and tear” parts (likely things like gaskets/oil/filters/batteries/etc).

( https://www.fmv.se/globalassets/dokument/om-fmv/fmv-ar18-bilaga-1-faststalld-slutversion.pdf )

[Fjord]

I assume 123A has new thermals when they mean “new night vision”?

[dotSHINI]

It would have been pretty obvious considering they would have needed to install new thermals.
Most likely the attica as example

[dotSHINI]

for all sense and purposes its a strv brought up to leo2a7v standards

And no its not likely to be added anytime soon, the damn thing just got handed over.
And its more likely for sweden to receive a norwegian 2a8 and the strv123a being forgotten all together

Additionaly strictly speaken the strv123a should have worse armor then the strv122 in game according to gajins logic

[Necronomica]

I would assume so, the Swedish term “mörkersikten” (roughly “darkness sights”) is sort of an umbrella term that means both night vision and thermal vision at the same time (sort of).

[Necronomica]

Not sure what you mean.