The 103’s have by far the worst gun handling at their BR, it’s among the worst in the game. you clearly have never used one. your analogy actually supports the case that the 103C shouldn’t have gone up, and probably should have gone down.
You should know, as everyone else does, that just because its green doesnt mean you can actually penetrate something. As the Protection analysis has some weird quirks. Then theres still tanks with worse apds, none at all or other quirks.
Anyway, engine block+transmission will mostly not lead to crew death, aiming higher will not lead to a mobility kill. So pick your poison
and exactly which tanks at 9.0 are better protected?
Most tanks that were 9.7 before have moved up to 10.0 and those old 10.0 are now 10.3.
I dont understand why you are pushing so hard to move 4s apfsds down to 8.7. When gaijin has shown intention of moving every apfsds slinger above 8.3 for the last patches.
Or is it to escape the early mbt matchmaker at 10.0 that can actually punch down on the strv103 in an uptier.
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And immediately get eaten by the engine or fuel, the issue is making it through the entire tank to where the crew is, not penning the hull
At least that is the issue I have always had with it, I sit there shooting it over and over, and eventually a teammate comes over and kills me. It is quite annoying because of the one crew operation as well, on the right side I have an easier time killing the crew because of it having less modules over there (I think)
This also does not make it bad armor, the abrams UFP is also incredibly thin, however they are extremely angled, this does not make either a “paper vehicle”
Again yes, but you also completely cripple the tank with the first shot, even from an 8.0 MBT
T62M-1
Chieftain Mk10
are just two off the top of my head.
gaijin has no Fking idea what they are doing rn with BR’s hence why the shr 2 went to 10.0 and still hasnt got the L23A1 round, or why we still have such massive compression between 8.3 ground all teh way to 12.0
and 11.3 air all the way to 14.0
but yeah gaijins moving all the APFSDS sligners.
Got the T95E1 witha better dart than the T55Am1 sitting at 8.3
got the AMX30B2 and Brenus still chilling with a 9.3 dart at 8.7
You’ve got the M60 RISE at 8.7 with darts
shall I continue?
Yes I shall.
Got the ZTZ59D at 8.3 with a DM23 equivelant dart and a LRF
and the T62 / turan 6
at 8.7
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I’m not sure if you’re even being serious. the m60tts for one. how about you find a 9.0 medium that has worse armour?
Because it’s bad. it’s reload is irrelvent, it can’t aim well, has no turret, it’s rounds are below average penetration and it has no armour.
Any APDS can punch through the armour and transmission. this sounds like a skill issue. just aim for the crew, you’ll immobilse it then get the crew on the other side.
It does for anyone with an IQ over 90. you can see the ricochet angles on rounds, the ambrams has it’s angled 83 degrees from the vertical, the 103s have construction angles of 79 degrees on their UFP and 72 on their lower, but their lack of a turret means that it’s almost always worse. the 100% ricochet angle is 81 degrees and the 50% is 80. can you understand that?
Go and test APDS rounds, on vehicles even as low as 7.7, they reliably pen the front and pass through the transmission.
Just because the round doesn’t ricochet doesn’t change how effective armor thickness works. You don’t need an IQ of over 90 to understand this, you just need to have played the game.
Have you played with 1st gen apds before? Its angle performance is terrible, making the armor on the strv 103 even better against them. I don’t get how you are reliably penning through the entire tank, but the tank you are using is clearly not from 7.7
I don’t mean to be rude, and try not to, but In my experience I have never easily taken out a strv 103 without tracking it, or flanking it in some way or another. The whole point of having your engine and transmission in the back is so your crew survives. That is my stance on the topic. though I have yet to try this
Most apds in game cannot pen it, only the chieftain apds and the m728 can actually pen it(neither are at 7.7), and even this can bounce off as they have a 100% at 90º and a 50% at 78º, it also stops short rod apfsds like the 3bm25, the 3bm3 or the t320, some of thise like the t320 is extremely likely to ricochet as they have a 100% chance at 78º.
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I wish
You wish what? it literally does xD its how I fight them in starship, sheridan fires the same heat
That must be some pretty wild skill issue on your end when even the HE doesn’t overpressure the 40mm plate.
not gonna lie mate, what the hell are you saying. if you cannot over pressure the roof of an STRV103 with a 152 mm heat round then you really, really are suffering of skill issue.
Sorry, but you’re the one dying to a shell with less than 38mm in chemical pen.
What the fk are you on about dying to a shell with less than 38mm in chemical pen🤣🤣
Im talking about me in the m60a2 , shooting the roofs of the S-tanks with thr 152mm heat.
You seem to think i mean im dying to 152 mm HE
Which is totally different
Yes its very good
Good gun and reaload and the most annoying armor in the game
If you don’t know how to shoot sure.
I have spaded most ground vehicles. APDS has fine angled pen, and it still goes straight through the armour of the 103s. So, i say go and test it for yourself, and instead you don’t do that, cast doubt on the statement and then attribute false claims to me. i never said anything about “penning through the entire tank”