At 9.0, all that is negated by APFSDS though.
A single well placed shot will disable the tank entirely.
It’s also difficult to aim.
Yeah I s’pose so, but considering that 99.99% of tanks at 9.0 are using APFSDS anyways, or some advanced APDS, the fence doesn’t really matter or do anything.
It still faces lots of tanks without LRF or APFSDS
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Do you mind giving me some names of those tanks at 9.0? The ones that people uses, that is.
First that comes to mind are the various M60s, aswell as most IFVs and the T95E1
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M60A3 TTS has APFSDS though, that’s the most commonly used one at 9.0.
The round goes right through the Strv-103C with no issues.
I don’t see why this thing being moved up is fair at all.
Tanks without LRF:
T-10M
IS-7
AMX-30 ACRA
Object 906
Chieftain Mk3
Chieftain Mk5
Centurion Mk.10
Type 59
Leopard 1
Pretty much all ifvs and APCS that dont carry apfsds or carry low pen apfsds
All spaa
All rocket carriers without tandem
Not to mention the tanks that carry only 1 of APFSDS or LRF:
M60A1 Rise
T62
T55a
Leopard 1A1
(countless others in 8.0-9.0 bracket)
Or those that carry only shortrod APFSDS that acts more like glorified apds when meeting an angle:
All of m735 carriers
Most russian/chinese tanks
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It’s armour is worthless at 9.0 and 8.7. it’s is entirely immobilised on any frontal penetration. it can only aim where it’s driving. it’s so slow in hull aiming mode that you need to switch it off to drive, then back on to fire, and hull aiming still bugs out and goes from bad to unusable depending on the gradient of the slope you’re on. the gun is weaker than it should be, either due to gaijin’s endless retardation or their endless bias it’s rounds have the ballistics of an L/52 gun despite being L/62, over a metre longer.
If anything it probably have been moved down to 8.3. the 103A isn’t too bad at it’s BR because it’s armour sometimes does something. the 103C is really not good to play.
APDS will still easily go through it’s frontal armour.
Some of those tanks can still fight Strv-103C regardless of it moving up or not, though.
The armor on it is worthless anyways like @Hannarr said, I don’t see the point of it being moved to 9.0.
Tanks at 8.7 can barely fight it. And you want to let it fight unstabilized tanks firing aphe at 7.7.
It was moved to 9.0 because everything that was 7.7 before got moved up in decompression, so now the strv 103C is moving back into its usual group.
Its still fighting tanks without LRF, Stab and APFSDS, just less than when it was 7.7.
I rather have the OG 7.7Heavies be in a matchmaker without autoloading apfsds wedges that they cant even hit reliably, much less pen, than have the strv 103c suffer a bit when its uptiered against the few 10.0 tanks there are.
I mean which tanks at 10.0 are gonna be such a big problem for it anyway
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At the current br its a glorified constantly immobilized bunker with a autoloader and gun that looses to most vehicles with turrets and stabilisers
The Strv-103 doesn’t have a stabilizer either, it takes about 3 seconds to adjust a shot.
Not to say that it’s also impossible to aim.
T-72s and early M1A2s are probably what comes to my mind
All f those are 10.3 now.
huh- with all the recent changes i really cant remember what i face at each br
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Strv-103A is at 8.0, it does the same thing as Strv-103C does.
Strv-103C has a little bit more horsepower, fence armor that does nothing and APFSDS round.
It’s barely any better than Strv-103A and it shouldn’t warrant a full BR above the original Strv-103.
the strv103c could face
Leo2k
Amx40 and i think T64b + new challenger event at 8.7 (they were all 9.7)
They all moved up to 10.0 except for the t64b, old 10.0 moved to 10.3.
So the tank still faces the same enemy mbts as it did before
the strv103a is the only tank that is allowed to have armor. If it was in any other tree it would be 8.3 by now. Check out the balancing of the Maus and t95 for similar armor centric tanks and then check when heatfs is introduced at each nation that can completely negate their armor, leaving them slow, with 20sec reload
Apfsds is also a whole other level than apds and fence stops most old heat fired from uptiered enemies.
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“barely fight it” how? it has around 140-150mm of RHAe and like only a 60 degree slope. It’s easy to kill and tricky to play.