Stroyny OP ship, I wonder by what criteria you thought of adding this ship at BR 4.3? It is definitely a much stronger ship, its BR should be at minimum 4.7 and at maximum 5.0.
Anyone who complains about my post go compare the “Stroyny” with “RN Corazziere” same BR of 4.3 but the “Stroyny” is 100 times stronger, every time you add new vehicles for the Russians you break the balance of the game.
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Stroyny is 4.3 like every other Pr.7U classes in the game, slow turret rotation paired with 4x 130 mm with long reload. 4.7 is full of very strong destroyers like Z32,Cadiz and other with very high RoF.
Stroyny is 4.3 like every other Pr.7U classes in the game, slow turret rotation paired with 4x 130 mm with long reload.
But have you even checked its reloading values before writing nonsense?
The turret rotation is slow and here I agree with you, but its rate of fire is fast, it is faster than the “RN Corazziere” its 130mm cannons fire much faster than the 120mm of the “RN Corazziere”.
So again, the mere fact that his turret is slow does not in the slightest justify his absurd BR 4.3, “Stroyny” is simply a broken vehicle.
Increasing his BR 4.7 will not harm him in the slightest, in fact it will make the game more balanced.
You just took one overbr´d ship such as Corazziere or Da Verazano as an example. These shouldnt be 4.3 i agree, but that doesnt mean Stroyny shouldnt be 4.3. 4.7 means it will meet 5.7 games, and just get obliterated by cruisers, Stroyny is nothing extra ordinary. Also, Stroyny´s reload is 7sec which is more than most destroyers it faces have. 6sec with ready rack which have only 20 shells.
You just took one overbr´d ship such as Corazziere or Da Verazano as an example. These shouldnt be 4.3 i agree,
So you admit that I am right, and this game is patently broken.
Dude, I’m doing the right thing, since I’m taking as reference ships with the same BR 4.3 as “RN Corazziere”, or as you said another Italian ship BR 4.3 as “RN Da Verazzano”, and I’m comparing them with another ship with the same BR by 4.3 the “Stroyny”… Anyone with half a brain can clearly see, but also experience in battle, the absurd firepower the “Stroyny” has compared to the “RN Corazziere” or “RN Da Verazzano”… By the way, the reloads of the 120mm cannons of the “RN Corazziere” or “RN Da Verazzano” are 10 seconds, while the reloading of the 130mm cannons of the “Stroyny” are only 7 seconds, this is not balance and just a huge pain in the ass.
The developers have created this problem, but they don’t care, and actively ignore it, continuing to disproportionately increase the BR of Italian ships, which at this point have clearly broken the game and can no longer be played.
Blame Regia Marine who didn’t make any loading asistance system on those guns XD.
Besides, Stroyny perfectly fits the 4.3. It’s just Italian destroyers were too weak compared to other 4.3 destroyer. If Stroyny has to go 4.7, all other destroyers between 4.3 ~ 5.0 except Regia Marine and Imperial Japanese Navy destroyers have to increase BR.
Your argument should be that many of the Italian ships are over tiered, and not that one specific Russian ship is under tiered. It doesn’t make sense to compare just two nations.
The issue is that Italian ships are overtiered, not that Stroyny is undertiered. Its in no way on the level of 4.7 DDs like Fletcher, Mohawk, Z32, or Tashkent, which is even from the same navy.
This is borderline stupid take, you are comparing average 4.3 ship to probably the weakest 4.3 ship and calling the average one op. Play different nations before you make pointless thread just to whine.
Typical response from someone who doesn’t care about the balance of the game.
Apart from the fact that you can’t tell me I’m complaining, since those who have replied to me have agreed with me the game is simply broken, and Italy suffers so much.
I wonder at this point why the Russians have been winning for over 2 years with win percentages above 70%, but their BRs of all their vehicles remain low?
Apparently the rule that if you have high win percentages you increase your BR only applies to other nations and not the Russians, so why should the smaller nations suffer and Russia not?
Do everyone a favour and just shut up before talking nonsense.
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Because the BR of each vehicles were made by their own performance not nation overall. And BR 4.3 is where SKR series were exist. The high win rate of Soviet navy at that BR is done by SKRs not by Stroyny. Actually Stroyny is another victim of SKR when meet as enemy in mixed matchmaker.
Shut up before talking nonsense? You have to do it first.
Because the BR of each vehicles were made by their own performance not nation overall.
Wrong Italian ships should be at a lower BR for their performance, but when they implemented the “RN Da Verazzano” in the game they immediately put it at BR 4.3, because the developers either hate Italy or have a preference for Russian vehicles, something the whole community has noticed.
Typical response from a Russian fanboy who doesn’t want to admit prejudice the developers have for the Russians. At the risk of being repetitive but right you should have shut up before talking rubbish.
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No. Every destroyer shouldn’t get BR lower considering 3.X coastals. NO exception for Italian destroyers. making BR higher could be possible, but no lower.
As I said earlier, almost all destroyers at 4.3 and 4.7. Stroyny at 4.3 is Soviet prejudice? Then what about USS Aylwin at 4.0, Z12/Z22/Z25 at 4.3, HMS Nepal and Kelvin at 4.3, MIlan and Vautour at 4.3? Is any of them weaker than Stroyny?
I can agree that Italy is currently not performing well against other countries destroyer. But that is due to own characteristic of Italian destroyers and overall compression. Stroyny is not only a problem and moving only Stroyny to 4.7 is impractical.
4.7 is where USS Sumner/Fletcher/Gearing/Frank nox, Z32/Z43/Z47, Tashkent, HMS Daring/Diana/Armada/Toburuk, Kako and Le malin stands. Do you really think Stroyny is that level of destroyer?
Besides, it seems your saying is very aggressive. calling fanboy, shut up and rubbish doesn’t seem productive attitude against other forum users.
I gotta say reading that title in 2023 is absolutely hilarious for back in 2018 when this Project 7U was added it was deemed worthless & horrible an absolute piece of poodoo for how bad it was compared to other premiums from back then like the Type 1936A Z20 and the Two Fletcher class ships.
The Stroyny isn’t very different to it’s TT counterpart being the only difference is on extra HAA cannon & less LAA MG’s.
And ohh the comparison option being the Soldati class hah of course the Soldati are quite worthless in game for as soon as the RN Geniere was added all name calling for the Stroyny switched places to those sad destroyers.
Your arguments are always to increase the BR of vessels not Italian but why not ask for Italian equipment to be lowered instead? As the Soldati class ships could become 4.0/3.7 at this point instead of sticking slightly above average equipment higher to places where they’ll get shat on faster then a frigate gets currently.
It’s a surprise you didn’t make a post on the Project 41 for that thing is far more dangerous then the Project 7U, Ntm both are old premiums so not new as they’re discontinued premiums from eons ago brought back for the russian naval day for this year which the devs do ever so often.
It seems even the worst of the Soviet vehicles are OP.
Buddy you are making so many logical fallacies it is quite impressive. Reread my response and try to understand it. You are making a conspiracy based based of the fact that you cannot destroy one average ship, yet there are far better ships (not russian) than Stroyiny on the same BR. Italy doesnt suffer, you literally picking on one of their weakest destroyers. Maybe progress to cruisers before making that point or better, progress other trees to get some perspective. And don’t bring other modes into naval discussion, they have separate sections, you can whine there. Russian navy is generally correctly BRed and Stroyiny is also very much so.
Shut up before talking nonsense? You have to do it first.
Besides, it seems your saying is very aggressive. calling fanboy, shut up and rubbish doesn’t seem productive attitude against other forum users.
You really are a hypocrite. Don’t worry, I reported you.
Apart from the fact that I didn’t call him “rubbish”.
You clearly made that up, do everyone a favour and avoid putting words that have never been used to others
Another troll comment, and your being a hypocrite is not a productive attitude towards other forum users.
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As someone who has touched every Bluewater except the Japanese (at least the 4.3), I think the Pr.7U (Stroyny) is a very reasonable BR and the Italian destroyer is simply too weak.
Compared to the Milan, J/K/N-class, Z25, Pr.30, etc., which are the ships I think excel in 4.3, the Pr.7 is a relatively average performer and does not deserve a BR increase.
It is true that Italian destroyers are in a difficult environment, but how about talking about them in the Soviet category? I recommend that we talk about it in the Italian category.
Just stop with these stupid takes. Nobody agrees with them.
It’s not exactly skill issue since it is hard to kill any other 4.3 in the Italian destroyers, but rather OP’s inability to understand how vehicles are supposed to be balanced.