is it that unreasonable though? considering US is the best country in the world at stealth currently
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Again, bold statement, we will have to see how the US compares to things like the 6th gens being developed.
Just because a lot of nations didnt dump billions into the development of 5th gens (though the UK was a lead partner in the F-35 program and iirc, the FAA provided much of the early requirements that the USMC went on to use for the F-35) doesnt mean that the US defacto has a monopoly on all stealth technology.
Odd, how can we rely on a nation that threatens us with losing our independence? Heck we even avoid buying US as much as possible(and when we do we remove the US for the factor as much as possible)
We do not rely on the US for defence, they have us at gunpoint forcing us to rely on the US. Heck, the last time we tried to rebuild our military the US threatened us until we stopped.
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To be honest in recent years, out of the ASEAN countries, only the Philippines are openly hostile with China. Even countries like Vietnam and Indonesia which have territories conflicts with China, seem to have found a way to balance relationship with China and the US. Don’t forget that China are already many ASEAN countries biggest trade partner and China would also like to invest more in these countries.
I think a lot of the news we get when it comes to “conflict with China” is the stuff going on the south china sea. where China is actively trying to claim huge parts of what is considered international waters or even sovereign waters of other nations.
for example:
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To be frank, to all parties involved, it is like playing an act such that they will not be treated as “weak” and no one want to escalate the level of conflicts to affect other cooperations and business.
Perhaps, but I do think there is a reasonable argument for why some nations in that area perhaps shouldnt be paired with China in much the same way that Ukraine shouldnt be a sub-TT of Russia.
Though, we do also have Taiwan in the same tree as China… so…
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I agree, my argument was not an intent to say some ASEAN countries should be in China TT or not, just feel that some people may not realize the different aspects of China-ASEAN relationship.
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Yup, thats fair.
I dont think anyone would be happy with the placement in either place on “political grounds”
But as for need, then Japan is likely more in need that China is, especially as China can always just get US tech via Taiwan and there are likely more appropriate sub-TTs for china like Pakistan
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Not to even mention that China still has an absolute boatload of domestic stuff still yet to come before it ever needs a sub.
Whereas Japan, in certain areas, is already scraping the barrel a bit.
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Yep, that should be the more important reason to add a Sub-TT and why I think South africa was stupid let alone India for Britain. We have loads left to be added
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Not anymore. After Japan acquires the Thai sub-tree, the CAS is already strong enough, and the ground vehicles will be supplemented by the T-84 and VT-4 in the future, well, at least the T-84 will definitely appear. So, most of Japan’s problems have already been solved by Thailand :)
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I can still see additions like the Malaysian f18 or South Korean K2 being of notable benefit to Japan in the future. Also does Thailand aid Japan in terms of top tier spaa?
No, only the Chinese FK-3 air defense system and the American M163. So I said “most of the problem solved”. However, there are also many countries that suffer from spas, so this is not a big problem. Didn’t Gaijin say they would fix this?
If Malaysia and South Korea also go to Japan, it will be stronger than the United States/Germany/Sweden, and I don’t think that will happen. Also, South Koreans probably don’t want to see that.
I’m happy that it’s a premium because otherwise I would have to waste my time grinding 400k for another top tier ground vehicle that the US doesn’t need while the abysmal winrates would remain.
The only way to fix it is through Singapore as they are the only ones with a good SACLOS missile system in the form of the V-200 RBS-70 and a top tier system in the form of the Spyder SR. The only other option would be Myanmar which would have the 2S6 with no M1 upgrade and maybe a purchased but not delivered Pantsir since both were essentially bought with Japanese security grants.
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Ok, I got fair to heated and have claim down some.
But my point still stands.
Any possibility of mix nation line-ups, should be based on RL groups(and when the nation was in it). As not only dose it limit the max claim of nations, because if the two Nations aren’t in an alliance(or other reasonable group to use for a military game) you shouldn’t be able to use it together
Over I said so/feel like “valid claim” which has neither reason or stoping point. As that can easily escalate to the world for most if not all nations.