SPYDER - General Discussion

AIO can have ER?
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Thats next Israeli top tier SAM, while AIO gets either pushed down to 11.7 into nonexistent lineup, reducing vehicle into Gaijins favorite - grind speedbump - or new SAM will go 12.3+

Game is perfectly capable of modelling first stage and then second stage motor, or booster/sustainer if you want to call it that way. Derbys already are modeled that way, as are many medium ranged missiles in game.

Gaijin also reworked R-77-1 from their initial draft of “dual stage” into single stage, just with longer burn as part of buffs to make missile actually distinct from previous R-77. Therefore clinging to “muh realism” is fools errand.

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Unless i missed a missile, what happens in game is that 2nd stage fires up just after the 1st ends, just like in real life. Dual pulse can enable the second stage whenever the missile system deems it correct, it is not limited to ingition instantly after the 1st ends. That is the main difference.

Yes, in game second stage is ignited instantly as first stage ends. AFAIK game engine/missile framework doesn’t have capability of modeling delayed second stage ignition. Well, it might be possible by adding third stage and making second “silent” ie no smoke, no thrust, just “burn” for x seconds. However without rework I don’t think it can have dynamic ignition time based on guidance parameters.

Which might be another reason for “ahistorical” R-77-1 configuration, just make it “good enough” and call it a day. Which isn’t all that outlandish, looking at how “IIR” or “IR/UV” seekers ended.

either im kind of dumb or whatever, but i think they just buffed the maneuverability of python 5’s, i hit a target from 0.8 KM with a python, before that it could only hit targets from 1 KM

they didnt buff anything it just depends on the aspect and the direction they are going
in short you got lucky

aw man, alright.

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Holy rage bait 🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

holy moly

still waiting for python 5 buff.

We allready went over it
Yes it can carry er

Pyrhon 4 is from the late 80s

The talk was about motor of derby. And then he pulled out 80s python burn time.

Oh i see mb

image rafael just be doing anything

Love to see that for any spyder fixes that are first to come. We get a fix of how it looks in the hangar. They are deliberately just dragging this out now there is just no way they prioritized how it looks in the hangar over how it plays in game currently. Actual smooth brain devs bro

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israeli players are litteraly so desperate for python 5 buff and derby-ER

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this drawing’s perspective managed to confuse my internal ear