Sufa is meant to carry everything that is air capable that Israel has, so yea
I’d only really add it once more advanced weapons come. F-16B ACE can just be a platform to carry Python 4’s, Popeyes and all the things it was presented with
Sadly that’s kind of what it is. It has a less powerful engine while also having a higher weight.
Orrr they can just add it to current Barak family and F15I.
Python-4 should’ve been added already.
Its not.
Sufa has insanely powerful engine.
It has the 229, the same engine as on the Ra’am, which is weaker then the one of the Barack IIs funnily enough. Go check ingame if you don’t believe me. I had the same misconception myself until someone pointed that out
Bruh.
Barak II’s engine is worse than Block-50 while Suva’s engine is more powerful than Block-50’s one.
You’re heavily misunderstood it.
I’ve checked few posts before and PW229 is marginally stronger in F-15E/I airframe than GE129 in F-16. However it likely does not make up for weight increase compared to block 50.
What Xray shows you is stationary thrust ie aircraft is anchored to the ground, the moment you add ram air intake from aircraft moving forward, things start looking very different.
Doing some mental gymnastics so bear with me:
Two aircraft sporting the same engines - F-100-PW-220, used by F-16A and F-15C, tested in clean condition + min fuel.
F-16A have:
anchored thrust of 9000kgf
peak thrust of 15100kgf at 1.15mach at sea level
1.68 increase
F-15C have:
anchored thrust of 8410kgf
peak thrust of 14200kgf at 1.15mach at sea level
1.69 increase
Difference in thrust between F-15 and F-16 airframe is 6% in favor of the F-16
So, if 229 engines in F-15I peak at 17000kgf at 1.15mach at sea level, it could be assumed Sufa will produce 17000*1.06=18077kgf
Further increasing gap to F-16C block 50, but weight increase likely more than “compensates”.
Why I have feeling Sufa will be squadron or event vehicle?
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no single seat variant of sufa?
What in the world makes you say that? The strongest F-16 in the IAF in terms of ordinance and armament? Not only is it a staple of the IAF service F-16s, but it would be way to strong to be there. There’s better foreign options for that
Can we get back on topic of the spyder?
Why is there still no aa fixes today
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No I do know that, it’s just they are finally adding a little variety in the lower tiers hopefully is what I’m saying. Grateful it’s not another magach
Because you don’t fix what is working as intended?
Flight model wise, it will be by all metrics obese F-16. So the only redeeming feature for 14.0+ BR will be - hopefully - missiles… which the moment Gaijin hands them out to better airframes, Sufa will go way of the dodo remarkably quickly.
I can’t see anything about twin missile racks for Sufa, so making it missile bus akin to Su-27/30 is likely out of the question, so next best thing being Kfir C10 of 14.0 - great kit and advanced missiles for its BR, but heavily limited in numbers as well underwhelming flight model when you run out of those.
Sufa merely suffers the same fate as Hornets - being good multirole jet IRL matters little in context of War Thunder and its own specific needs.
Nothing is working at all, everything is messed up.
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Unfixed bugs stay with us as features in War Thunder. After all, Gaijin has long and proven track record of fixing what they recognize as issues.
Gaijin fix whatever they like to fix, they use double standards with any nation they like and we know which nations i’m talking about, Israel is a nation full of bugs and mismanagement and poor modeling of several vehicles, it’s pretty absurd how several topics are talking about these issues they get ignored it just proves that Gaijin simply “Doesn’t care”.
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Double standards apply to everyone equally. Fulcrum and Flanker flight models, russian tanks past T-55A lacking anti radiation liner doubling as rudimentary spall liner, Leopards still using old composite package, Ariete WAR kit being having the same protection as Merkavas composite, pick and choosing who uses what ammunition only to fit designated BR.
The sooner you consider War Thunder as “World of Tanks/Warplanes/Warships with extra steps”, the better for your psyche.
Doesn’t seem like it buddy.
Credit where credit is due is Gaijin mastery of gaslighting people into thinking grass is greener on other side.