SPYDER-SR also used Python 5 early on. There was one seen way back then in 2005 when Python 5 was revealed including the SPYDER-SR
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Funny thing as I’m testing Derpys in custom battle against bot recon aircraft on Vietnam EC map, if you launch Derby with significant altitude advantage over target, missile forgets to loft and flies straight at it. And with such “feature” missile timeouts long before reaching target even if it was launched within radar range estimates.
But if you lower altitude difference to within 2km, missile lofts as expected and domes target at the edge of radar range estimate, while missile launched just outside of that estimates timeouts as expected just before impact, despite having decent (0.94mach) energy state.
AMRAAMs also forgor about loft in the same scenario and timeout before impact. Quick ARB game, with missile launched against low flyers also confirms lack of loft so we might have a feature.
I didnt rly understood ur point here
Also subsonic isnt decent for a missile
In this speed it cant hit a manuvering target
No missile will hit maneuvering target at range in first place.
Entire “BVR” as its in game is paid actor/bot/afk check.
No its not
120 r77-1 aam4 can defenitly hit manuvering target even after 30 and maybe 40 km
If target maneuvers, it can also notch, F-pole and/or go cold, rendering all three inert.
I’m not saying Derby is the best BVR thing since sliced bread, but that disfunctionality is of limited impact in context of your average ARB clusterfuck or sniping off AI target(s) in Air Sim.
MICA is even worse when it comes to BVR yet its by far the best missile in game in practice.
High drag becomes even bigger issue for ground launched Derby and unless Derby ER made by Gaijin addresses that, extra thrust will likely have limited effect. Which might happen, as 77-1 with its rework from dev hell->live lost two stage motor all/most available sources states it has and got air drag reduction.
When i say manuvering i mean trying to avoid the missile when its about to hit by out Gs it cuz it doesnt have speed to pull
Ofc im not talking about notching or going cold
Derby lose its speed almkst like the mica but have mid to bad range with mid agility thats why it bad
It not the worst at smt but its far from the best at smt
Cuz it perfect for furrball
It will be a big diffrance wdym we talking about 1/5 more thrust or more cuz it should have more energy then p4 and currently it have less
And yea less drag should be implemented as well
Like there is no way derby has only 30km of effective range at air lunched
Thats less then aim 7
By your own metrics of what is “effective air range”, Sparrows barely have 15km. 30km requires the same kind of paid actor as you need for 40km+ Derby shots.
You mean those extra 20% thrust was added as Gaijin went out of their way to buff the missile with the rework, as initial state of the missile with two stage motor had about as much extra thrust as C5 has over A/B AMRAAMs.
Then for actual thrust and air drag values, unless you have the most sekrit of dokuments AND you meet correctly minded moderator AND someone at snail feels EXTRA productive today, its not going happen. At best Derpy ER may or may not be added as “next step” missile. Now witness Gaijin add them + P4 to Sufa to drive power creep forward
We talking high alt bvr so u underrastmate aim 7
And 10km is a big diffrnace
And u know what even 30km is a stretch for the derby so u right effective range is about 20-25km
I dont remember they buffed the derby thrust but anyway im talking about now
Derby is missing thrust
Iaf clearly said derby has more thrust then p4 so no problem here but u right gaijin wont change it cuz israel has anti bias
Same for p4 we wont see it soon and even if we will they gonna butcher it
I would take that only because I want the sufa so very badly, popeyes too.
The total SL and RP cost of modifications is the same for all vehicles on the same BR. Since SPYDER only has 2 modifications at tier I, each single modification will be twice as costly as if it was another vehicle on the same BR with 4 tier I modifications.
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thats wild tbh
Anything they can do to get you to spend a few dollars more for premium. I agree man the amount of grinding you gotta do is harsh for sure in top tier
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Any accepted reports for the spyder yet? Other than the smokeless motor of course which shouldn’t even have been of question, does anyone know if they fixed p5 missile wobble?
i have a strong feeling for when they fix the spyder to how it should be, there will be a parade
i know i will be celebrating
I think it accepted but not fixed
If they will which i dout
They gonna uptier it so it wont be as good