SPYDER - General Discussion

SPYDER-SR firing process. The missile fired is a I-Derby according to Rafael

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20km+
Imo p5 can go over 40km and iaf just hide it but there is no proof for that
But iaf did said it can bvr so…

Yea might be it
Can be very cool

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BVR is 10km or more range

Well its 20km+

Hi man
Here it is a spyder with p4



this book was a gift from iai to their employees so safe to say its true

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Basing on floating google spreadsheet with missile datamine:

Python 4 has identical weight and similar-ish motor to Type 81 (Japan SPAA) missiles, but lacks TV/contrast seeker option nor it have extended IR lock range of a Stinger/MIM72G seeker. It does have Stinger-like flare rejection of combined gatewidth and tracking suspension. Difference boils down to air drag values which are unknown to me.

So ye, P4 armed Spyder would be just step up from Chaparral and definitely not “top tier capable” SPAA/SAM system.

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In game you already can throw 9L as far as 20-25km in head on with sufficiently good launch conditions, thus any range statements without launch conditions context needs to be taken with one wheelbarrow of salt.

Ahh not rly dude i never saw aim9 go more then 10km

It doesn’t have to go 10km when the enemy is travelling towards you

When missile range is mentioned its not how far the target is in head on
Its how much the missile can travel from the moment of lunch until it falls

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wait so if they add the SPYDER with iderby and python 4, is there also a slight chance the F15I and the F16D can carry Python 4 or I-derby?

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The first version of the spyder probably would have normal derby not i derby
For p4 it depends on balance cuz other nation needs equivlants

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Going by radar range estimates, which usually are “good enough”, with sufficiently good launch conditions 9L/9M can travel 20km+ against notching target ie doesn’t close nor extend distance.

Now whether seeker detects anything that far is another matter, but if missile had datalink and LOAL capability, it should hit.

Ahh u are in such perfect condition in that case p4 might have 30+km
This is not the condition ppl test missiles on

I don’t think there is “standardized” methodology to measure missile ranges to begin with and certainly isn’t it used in various articles/websites.

I-Derby, no
But yes, it is very likely that they will get the Python 4

Given how short No Escape Zone is on current Derbys even when launched from supersonic jet, I-Derbys aren’t all that outlandish idea for surface launched missile.

I-Derby is kinematically very similar to the Derby
I-Derby is primarily an electronics upgrade

Also we were talking about planes not the Spyder

To be on exact same page, are we talking about “I Derby ER”, as I can’t find anything about just “I Derby”?

I-Derby is a Derby with a much better seeker, should be able to ignore chaff and other distractions much more. It is the I-Derby ER but without the booster

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Also, planes can carry it, as the brochure shows

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