SPYDER - General Discussion

David’s Sling is anti munition not anti aircraft

It can be used against aircraft as well

Watch rafael video they said it in the first 15 sec

https://www.rafael.co.il/system/medium-long-range-defense-davids-sling/

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Interesting

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Jackpot. After digging more than enough, I might have found the early 2005 SPYDER shown in Paris Air Show 2005, where multiple sources, including the image sources themself say that it has Python 4. Theres lots of sources talking about the Python 4 being carried on early SPYDER systems, but this should solidify it

Spoiler

Also I managed to find an image of the Georgian SPYDER-SR mounted on a Roman 6x6 truck, who shot down a aircraft in 2008 with a Python 4)

This means that the SPYDER, that is if it’s the SR variant, could perhaps come sooner with Python 4 and I-Derby

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That’s amazing! You could probably make a suggestion for it…

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Im making one right now, believe it or not

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>:3

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That would be depressing. Cause Python 5 is the only IR missile that can actually threaten F-15E, Su-30, Rafale, etc to my knowledge.
A Python 4 SPYDER could very well be about as useful as Pantsir or worse… ITO-90M.
Granted, I don’t know Python 4’s ground-launched range, so my post is just speculating.

The Python 4 and Python 5 are the same with range. Only difference between the both is that the Python 5 has a way better seeker, a IIR one to be specific, so it would infact easier to implement (so that a long wait isn’t needed)

Also I’m not sure if it will be depressing, as Python 4 uses a dual band seeker as far as I know, the ones found on Stingers and whatnot

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If true that might be tolerable, but I do still have my concerns.
Especially if the Python 4 is “easily defeated” within its range.

One of the issues in say Pantsir’s case is when a Typhoon engages a tank the Typhoon can just dodge every Pantsir missile.
In Python 4’s case… flaring correctly.

Either way I want the most potent version of the IR SPYDER cause without it I fear we’re just waiting again. Though I guess vs helicopters Python 4 would be cracked at the least.

Main issue with the Python 4 will be helicopters and the devs having no understanding of their heat signature so it will have a comically short range

incompetence devs strike again

No one denied that it was well known

There is a version with booster but im in doubt gaijin wont just cp the missile and leave it like that

What lacked was photographic proof. People usually just said it without any backup sources, and now we have photos

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No python 5 has more range and speed (mach 4+) and 20km+ with the ability to bvr (was claimed by the iaf) that is due to improve drag and thrust adjusting
Python 4 have 15km range and mach 3.5 max speed (some sources says it can reach mach 4 in perfect condition but u get the point)

Lol fr?
I have a book of elta and iai that showed and said it clearly can take p4

Mind sending it? Both the SPYDER Python 4 and the Python 4/5 differences (aside from seeker), as from what I know it’s still the same, just with minimal airframe changes that don’t impact anything

Oh man its on my grandpa house and i just was there the entire week
Well i will try to remeber to send it when i will be there next week

Matter of fact, I still have the older official Rafael Python 5 brochures, which I found in archives, and it states this

image

As I already said, there are no changes aside from seeker, which includes all these systems

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