SPYDER - General Discussion

GOOD LORD WE FOUND SOURCES ON BARAk 1 missile

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I see

2106 NG has 100km range max, and it is paired with SR/ER.

Ah I seem to have gotten the UAV detection range, mb. Seems it’s somewhere in the ballpark of 70km-110km for fighter aircraft, more than enough for War Thunder:
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I bet you all my money at this point Gajijn will never add this for isreal

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Posted it already in the HVSD thread a long time ago

Also this is off topic, as the Spyder doesnt use it

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Anyway, I’m currently in the works of the SPYDER-LR suggestion. Might have some delays (not counting suggestion wait time in this case) due to irl stuff.

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Omg this picture its gold, gonna use it later.

Do you know aprox G overload?

What missles does it use and how does this SPYDER look?

Python 5 MR (P5 with a booster) and I-DERBY LR (I-Derby ER with a booster)

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30km is extremely optimistic take, against defending targets I’d say you can count yourself lucky if you score hit past 10-15km, when missile seeker announces itself on everyone RWR as far as 20km + everyone who grinded their way to the top got acquainted with defeating those without consent.

You forgot I-Derby ER. There is no problem with integration

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Technically true, but I personally don’t consider them an SR system anymore in that case, as that something I’d consider ER based on what I’ve read, allow me to explain:
In some cases, the militaries using them continue to refer to them as SR, even when they use I-Derby ER missiles. My personal example I go by is India’s SPYDER-SR, which has I-Derby ER now following their acquisition. As such I now refer to them as a SPYDER-ER system, even when it continues to be officially referred to as an SR system. Rafael is still Rafael and their designations aren’t very good, so I kinda feel like it’s a ‘to each their own’ thing when it comes to designations, but it is completely compatible and used by some systems still designated SR.
(Something also worth mentioning is there’s two different SR/ER launcher types offered, being the rotating and elevating launchers (1x4), and the standard vertical launchers like we have ingame (1x4 or 2x4). If you want to call the directional one the SR or the vertical ones the ER, as since some Rafael imagery does depict those systems being designated like such, I wouldn’t complain at all. I just happen to be of the opinion those different launcher types aren’t exclusive to one destination each, but rather that the missiles determine such a designation.)
At least, I’m fully of this opinion when it comes to MR/LR systems, so I’ve decided to apply it here as well to most cases (At the very least the vertical launchers lol).

Spyder oh, I miss the “never” old days when you were usable

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Butchered Spyder (No I-derby ER and Python 5 sucks), 16 SPICE 250’s for the Gripen E and Not F-16I, litteraly a customer having more than the owner himself, they might also give more python 4’s to the Aussie F-18 than the F-16I

Wasn’t the F-15 able to also carry SPICE-250s? I’m just tired of having to grind something just for it to be ass. Spyder is unholy and unless the target flies in a straight line you ain’t hitting it and let’s not talk about the deadzone + range, it must have like 5 km effective range at this point.

yes, F-15I can hold about 28 SPICE 250’s, According to Rafael themselves

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Also rants aside, the TT needs an SPAA between the SPYDER and Chaparral. Uptiering yourself to 12.7 just for a SPAA that barely works isn’t a smart play, and I actually would like to have something in between those. Does Israel even have something that fits without “breaking” the game? I’d guess the SPYDER SR would be too much? (I want a radar please) Also, I guess we could suggest the SPYDER MR or something? Only if it actually works similarly to the multi-vehicle SPAAs in-game, I guess.

Ah, no wonder they didn’t add them I guess.

Theres also a captured strella with wheels, but idk if israel used it.

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And m113 with mistral

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