They are gimmicks. A gimmick that is quickly becoming oversaturated in this game.
Its fun, its a video game
You do not need to try to get the last word.
hmm?
Personally I don’t like the trend of adding artillery as TDs, but I guess they’re playable. What I truly don’t like is their BR placement, but I guess they’re “hard to balance”.
If older SPGs were added, like the M37, Hummel, Wespe, Priest, Sexton… I’d be more grateful to see them in combat, since those were used in a more close quarters environment than modern artillery does, but again that’s just my personal take.
Well we already have CAS which effectively is the exact same mechanic as WoT Arty, and you can quite clearly see what people think of it as a mechanic.
My only issue with SPGs is how they completely killed any armor meta, low tier heat and apds was already making it difficult but at least you could still tank a lot of them, but when you take your heavy tank and play it right in every way just to get one shotted by some spg 3 brs lower than you because he shot at your optic or track that was sticking out or because its paper thin armor didnt fuse you shell or spall at all is just ridiculous. I used to really like playing things like the Tiger 2, Maus, Jagdtiger, Conqueror and t30 and now i barely touch them because of SPG spam
CAS isn’t even close to WoT arty in terms of how much hate it gets or even how annoying it was, you can see planes coming, you can shoot back at them as they come in for their run or as they leave, punishing their attempt, and you can fight back against them without having to have already won the game.
None of that was true for artillery in WoT.
Because they make the game fun. Because the thought of basic b*tches spending their entire time in War Thunder playing ‘meta vehicles’ makes me sick, because MBTs bore me to death. Add more SPGs Gaijin.
Speaking of vehicle classes that are out of place, what the hell is this light tank doing in spaa line?
I’d rather they were not represented in the game at all by vehicles.
We already have “them” as abstract artillery - that’s good enough.
Not sure what you are replying to, but hte M10 GMC was specifically designed as a tank destroyer
There’s a lot of historical precidence for using SPGs in a direct fire role. I recall one story from WW2 where the crew of a Long Tom artillery piece used the cover of night to sneak up to point blank range of the German positions, only to absolutely level them with pinpoint accurate fire when morning broke.
To be fair, I don’t recall where I heard that particular story, and a quick search online gives me nothing, so it might be inaccurate. EDIT: Pic probably unrelated, but certainly in the direct fire role.
Either way, most modern SPGs are given direct fire sights for a reason. They aren’t intended to be used in the direct fire role, but for much the same reason that Gepards get APDS, occasionally the frontline finds them and they need some way to fight back.
Tanks still target infantry outside of fortifications primarily. The Ukrainian military’s main criticism is that the Abrams lack an HE shell.
I also find it odd that most modern tanks are designed to take hits from enemy tanks when enemy infantry is the more common and larger threat.
I mean that’s the main point of ERA and ADS, not to provide protection against enemy tanks but against MANPATs. Though often both when possible. Like people threw a huge fit when the SEP didn’t have more armour- but that’s because it was an improvement in protection against infantry anti-tank weapons in an urban environment, not against other tanks.
The lack of side and top armor on most tanks is a real problem and why the only tank able to survive drone warfare was the Merkava Mk.4 series.
ITT: People who never played WoT back in 2010-2012
Trust me, Arti - SPAA, and all those other vehicles nuking your boring ‘meta’ vehicle are not a problem.
See above. These youngins don’t know how bad arti was in WoT at its peak. WT is fine.
then came the update which ruined arty party and the spam stopped
Yeah, but unlike this game - arti could just sit across the map and dunk on people ‘beyond visual range’. Closest we get to that in this game is that guy on YouTube using the drone to range his BMPs autocannon to take out helicopters on their helipad (a public service). 99% of the time you’re getting nuked by an arti that is able to see you - and you him.
yeah. things are as they should be in here