I do yes. Not my fault you dont. The Kh 38 launch is visible same way when F-14 launches Phoenixes or Fakours, you also see them and start notching, meanwhile others continue flying straight and die.
Just don’t fly poorly. Anytime I get killed by SAM’s is cause I ain’t paying attention or flying too high. Baseline just always assume there’s SAM’s or SPAA’s on the battlefield
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As the topic is about all SPAAs and the topic creator said:
I don’t see Kh 38 there. In many B.R. if not most SPAAs don’t have the upper hand. Spawn protection allows for adjusting of current situation and dealing with spawncamping planes.
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One contrail shows up and all 16 players in the opposing team hit their smoke key.
That’s a clown show if I ever seen one.
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Once again I enjoy pretending as if the ground battle doesn’t exist and I also enjoy pretending as if “hiding” by a building is going to help when the enemy knows exactly where I was and has a top down third person view of the battlefield.
Like really, when you make such horribly disingenuous posts are you doing it under some kind of delusion that the other people posting in the thread have never played a plane before? Or is it some other kind of cognitive inhibition?
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As I mentioned
Nobody forces you to engage on SPAAs. You can avoid them so you don’t get shot down.
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I do wish the spawn protection ended or lost a good chunk of time if the target fires. I’ve had it before where the person has been sat in spawn protection able to shoot at me (whether its tank vs tank or spaa vs CAS) and yet I could do nothing because they hadnt moved yet
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You know, You can always position Yourself in a way that You won’t be shoot from enemy spawn?
I know it is “shorts” but it shows how well planes can be played:
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Spawncamping with CAS is a cowards way to play the game. And it’s your choice to spend the 950SP on that vehicle.
Stop hanging around the spawn zone and do something constructive like attacking tanks trying to cap.
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Pretty sure you lose protection immediately if you fire the main gun.
If I see spawncampers moving into the zone when I’m about to spawn I wait until they are good and close, then take out the turret. I’ve lost protection in that moment but they can’t return fire.
IMO spawn protection works like it should.
Personally, I think they should double it even when driving specifically only against CAS players so they can’t just shoot people immediately when they spawn anymore.
I personally think, 20 seconds is fine but after it shoots it should loose spawn protection, therefore if AGM get to it faster than SPAA missile, then its skill issue on SPAA part, but the plane is not defencless for 15 more seconds after SPAA starts shooting
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You loose protection only sooner when you move, otherwise when you are standing and shooting you have full 20 sec. Also its not about hanging around spawn, the entire map is in range of SPAA even if you are killing tanks near points you can still get easily sniped by SPAA.
Even if true, you can’t lower the duration (20 seconds?) just for spaas as they are often targets for ground spawn-campers.
Maybe have duration drop to 5 seconds the moment the spawner fires a shot?
A significant reduction in remaining spawn protection time if you fire would be suffiecient, but 20 seconds is an eternity. Thats 3-5 shots for most MBTs and god knows how many rounds from an IFV. And with FnF SAMs, that is a lot of missiles that could be fire whilst 100% immune to damage.
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No one is forcing you to look at them in their spawn without having any cover to hide behind.
I’ve seen multiple people abusing this method with IRIS-T, with new SPAA additions it will become even more obvious.
Granted CAS is also busted but they might be reduce the time to 10-15 seconds.
Spawn is a sacred place, so nerfing it in any way doesn’t seem right.
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Ground mains under this thread who aren’t satisfied even with point and click:
So the best way is to ass a cement lid just like submarine bunkers. Planes cant bomb down inside and SPAAs wont shoot outwards. Easy solution.