Added the Panther and sources for it. @Smin1080p
So make some skins for them in the German tree - noting else needs be done.
As Hungary being the only axis user of these tanks besides Germany I think that aside from Italy needing heavy/medium tanks, Hungary has the right to have these tanks. These are not captured, not, bought but never received, but tanks that Hungarian aces and tankmen served on and died in.
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Why? If there is a Hungarian subtree. Some of these tanks will fill gaps the whole TT has, especially Tiger, which gives a heavy tank → the ability to complete task without the need to research a different TT.
Also the tree in general lacks tanks at that tier.
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A good little on-topic video
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Could anyone tell me exactly which version of the Panther did Hungary used?
Thanks a lot
Presumably, D and A versions. the D is listed in the used foreign vehicles list and the photograph shows an A-type hull.
So currently there are only photographical proof of the Panther A, right?
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yes, at least at my disposal
I kinda miss the most numerous german tanks given to hungarians, according to Tank encyclopedia et least. Which are 108 Pz 38t ,either like 70 or 10 Pz4H (the site really contradicts itself, I would think it probably the latter, so in that case ignore this) and 75-85 Hetzers. Well I am not sure correctness of the source on the later two, the Pz 38 could enrich the 2.3 line-up.
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On the note of the Pz 38t. You guys probably already saw it, but I will share this anyway.
https://m.facebook.com/hadtortenelmidelutanok/
It states that of the 108 vehichles that hungary got, 16 was the model F and 91 the model G.
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@PacketlossRedux
Hi!
I have a question regarding the turret roof armor values of the Tigers in Hungarian service.
Ingame the “Tigris” has 25mm of turret roof armor (same as on the “Heavy tank No.6” in Japan), while the “Tiger E” in the German tech tree has 40mm.
Were the Tigers used by Hungary mid-production models without this roof upgrade?
I can see a few smaller parts welded to the “Tiger E” roof and an additional bolt in the latch of the loader’s hatch, so they are clearly not the same turret. I’m just unsure about their armor values.
i have no idea, honestly. But if it has the loader’s hatch designed for the Tiger II than it is the 1944 version with the 40mm thick turret-roof armor. According to the linked book, the 40mm turret roof had the loader’s hatch originally designed for the Tiger 2 turret(page 15). This upgrade is listed as March 1944.
The tanks were supplied from the sPzAbt.503 in May 1944.
Oh sorry, I wanted to point out the escape hatch next to the loader, not the hatch above. The 3 bolt version seems to be the earlier one, while the other with 2 bolts is the later version, but here are 3 types of them.
By the way, I just noticed the actual loader’s hatch designed for the Tiger 2 on the third picture, then that variant must be the latest.
Also, is there any info whether the s.Pz.Abt. 503 used the latest Tigers manufactured with the 40mm thick roof? I’m guessing no, but who knows…
i dont have any conclusive information on that. The most i know is that 503 received new tiger 1s in 1944 February and March.
Alright, thanks for the answer.
One more thing… I found these images about the Tigers used by Hungary. Do you recognize the Tiger 2 loader’s hatch on these by any chance?
The third one resembles the Tiger 2 hatch, as the hand-grip rail seems to be on the left side, not in the middle, however most sources state that this picture is from Normany, not Hungary.
its hard to say due to the angle of the photograph. but yes the 3rd one is a late production with the Tiger 2 hatch
Yeah, then I guess the Tigers in Hungary, at least the ones of which we do have photo evidence were all mid-production models.