A phantom with agile eagle, F-18 radar and AMRAAM/AIM-9L is still a just phantom at the end of the day, you can try and argue all you want but the missiles alone won’t save it from being easily the worst vehicle among the peers it is going to face. on that note the Shar Fa.2 and ADV will be in a similar bote, any upgraded Gen 3 airframe they add will.
The only ones that will be remotely close to being on par is the Kfir C.10 and maybe the Atlas Cheetah C but that’s it…
Mig-21Bis was in the tech tree at the time as a superior jet to Mig-23MF.
Also he implied all since he claims that F-16, USA’s primary fighter, is DOA. Which also brings Mig-29 into it, F-16’s counterpart. Well, SMT is worse than F-16, but point still stands.
Also, stop insulting everyone on the forum just cause they’re stating facts.
F-16 with AMRAAM and I assume Mig-29 with R-77 or some other aircraft, are all going to be twice as nimble as the sea harrier or Tornado or Phantom.
So again… If other nations that have those aircraft are allowed a light fighter with AMRAAM, why cant germany and Britian? Why do we have to have lumbering trucks that are probably barely 11.3 airframes at 12.3+ but other nations can have 12+ airframes with 12.3+ weapons? Just is not fair and makes no sense. Your entire argument is that Typhoon is a light fighter and thus would be too OP. But isnt the F-16 a light fighter?
we filling the remaining 1400 messages to Part 3 with this now?
F-4F ICE has 8 missiles at its disposal, four of which are AMRAAM Bs. And F-16 can carry AMRAAM As even. F-4F ICE will be the only heavy fighter with AMRAAMs in my prediction.
Gripen’s 4 AMRAAMs are Bs as well.
F-16 AMRAAMs goes to Israel & USA.
R-77s on SMT could balance that out.
PL-12s for China.
MICA-RFs on Mirage 2000 5F.
And so forth.
Typhoon is a heavy fighter, 10 AAM pylons makes it heavy.
Fun-fact F-18 is the same dry weight as F-4, just has better engines in relation to that weight.
Typhoon would be having F-15, F-18, Su-30, and Rafale.
And that is why I was suggesting development variants of the Typhoon, which would be added with limited weaponry.
yes
F4F ICE can carry AiM-120A and B
Block 50 can carry A, B, Cs
Just glossing over the Tornado F3 and Sea Harrier FA2 as being extremely poor performance at top tier then.
Gripen would royally suck and be a stupid addition to Britain as Typhoon is available as an option. A phantom is still a Phantom. 8 Missiles is still less/equal to what most other nations will be fielding.
Typhoon is limited to the same number of AMRAAM as any other jet currently in game, like the Tornado F3 or F-16 at a max of 4. Whilst it does also have the 6x Aim-9L. They are only 9Ls where most other nations are porbably fieldign Aim-9M and R-73 by that point.
It might be more nimble, but no more so that the F-16 and Mig-29 are vs any other 11.3-11.7 in game currently. So it owuld be 1 stop higher than them with AMRAAM. So what
Adding R-77 to the game would mean adding AMRAAM C at minimum just for how much of a massive performance gain there is with R-77 over A or B model AMRAAM…
would not be surprising if they do that
add R-77, 120C, PL8 and MICA together
or Maybe that’s just me predicting how much they’ll ram my favourite TTs sweden and germany into the ground Again
And Block 50 won’t be carrying Cs in War Thunder because the BR’s aren’t available to it as of yet.
After all, it’s the best airframe of the AMRAAM carriers until the better “heavy” aircraft come.
Sweden’s tech tree is among the top two overall currently, and will only get better with Gripen…
@Morvran
Dude, you know exactly that I addressed Tornado & Harrier, please don’t misrepresent others.
Britain can have Gripen and Tornado. One for pure speed, and one for dogfighting backup.
Of course all would have 9Ms as well.
@Danzig_A1
R-77 is AMRAAM B equivalent.
R-77-1 is the AMRAAM C1 - C3? equivalent.
we’ll talk about this again after the Fox 3 update drops
because I disagree with you
Tornado Is equally fast to an F-16 and a spaded Tornado F3 is slower than a stock Mig-29… So no, one is not for speed. It would 100% still be a 11.3 airframe at 12.3. Would be easy pickings for anything nimble in a WVR fight. Gripen would be a bad fit.
It turns out 120A on F4F ICE can be safely given even now against 27ER.
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AMRAAM A would be a good test on F-4F & AV-8B+ while the full update comes later in the dev server, or in the December update.
it won’t be done tho
and we both know why, we talked about it a lot before