Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

Its almost never played with the exception of 1 or 2 diamonds in the rough. I havent even got the first vehicle in the sub-tree researched and I dont really plan to anytime soon

Most reasonable I’d say most basic and easiest. Is that not why we have national tech trees?

It doesn’t prove anything.
Israel was spread across three nations before eventually becoming its own tree.

That’s why i put the Leclerc leak there read again

Ok but why bother adding them at all.

Lets say you add some Swiss vehicles to the game and I wanna play ground RB with a Swiss lineup, well the Leopard 2A4 is German, the CV9030CH is Swedish and the F/A-18 Hornet is from the USA, so now I can’t run a Swiss lineup at all and those vehicles just get mixed in with the near identical versions in their tech tree, like what is the point of giving the USA a Hornet with a Swiss flag on it? If there isn’t enough to make a full tech tree then they should at least all be consolidated into a single nations sub tree otherwise they might as well not exist apart from the unique upgrade variants which just comes across as the exporting country taking credit for something that really isn’t theirs.

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And then LTX Tornado is simple…


Switzerland only “lacks” unique stuff at top tier, it has some of the best ground potential through ranks I-VI and still holds up at rank VII.
It also had some domestic aircraft, though not as good as compared to their ground component.

Apart from the Rooivalk and Rooikat 105, there aren’t any other appealing features in the SA subtree.

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And you’re suggesting all of that be scattered over multiple tech trees leaving anyone who actually wants to play Switzerland in an impossible situation.

We are forgetting about the Rooikat MTTD, the TTD, SARC cars and G.6 Rhino, no?

G6 looks kinda funny to use to me as well, but yeah. Past those few, no value. Even the additions into the line are almost worthless. only 1 of the low tier SPAA are actually good/add value to the tree, the rest are just side-grades to british vehicles already in the tree. The fact most of them are getting foldered kinda proves that

No, I suggest Switzerland be an independent playable country rather than being relegated to another nation.

Sure why not but sometimes it depends on the country that deliverd the vehicle to the possible sub tree candidate while it always depends on the perspective Gaijin fancies at any given moment.

Sore luck seeing how Gaijin does not have clear regulations for such matters. I certainly want to see a Swiss Mirage IIIC with all aspect AIM-9P and AIM-4.

Not enough vehicles I’d say.

Tbh I would like to have two commonwealth tech trees.

One western themed and another eastern themed

So for the western you will have Canada, Australia and South Africa.
And the eastern you will have India and other countries with aligned Soviet tech.

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Why not?
They’d have over 100 mostly unique ground vehicles that could be added as well as their air tree isn’t so terrible.

The only lacking area would be naval, but with the addition of Israel I think it’s clear that that mode isn’t of equal priority to Gaijin.

Ok and if Gaijin don’t do that then they should just be scattered all over the place?

Not every nation can have it’s own tech tree, Finland is a great example, they have almost nothing to do with Sweden apart from being neighbors but if they didn’t have a sub tree there they would just be split between Britain, Germany, USA, and Russia and their vehicles would bring almost nothing new to the table for those countries, they would be pointless, but put them in the Swedish tree and suddenly those aircraft become very much Finnish and if someone wants to play with Finnish vehicles they are all in one tree, nice and consolidated with a different progression through the tree, where else can you grind from F-2A to Hurricane to BF-109, and still stay in the same nation.

Didn’t they send volunteers and equipment alongside J8’s in the Winter war?

“In addition, a smaller number of individuals joined the Finnish army units or operated mechanical shops repairing equipment, mainly in the Swedish speaking south of Finland. The Swedish government and public also sent food, clothing, medicine, weapons and ammunition to aid the Finns during this conflict. The military aid included: 135,402 rifles, 347 machine guns, 450 light machine guns with 50,013,300 rounds of small arms ammunition; 144 field guns, 100 anti-aircraft guns and 92 anti-armour guns with 301,846 shells; 300 sea mines and 500 depth charges; 17 fighter aircraft, 5 light bombers, 1 DC-2 transport aircraft turned into bomber, and 3 reconnaissance aircraft, totally comprising 1/3 of the Swedish air force at the time.”

Send me a list with those vehicles pelase.