Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

I mean that barak is not that good in dogfight, so it should get better missiles to compensate

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Were are the new changelogs?

Neither of which are tracked vehicles.
Hungary’s service vehicle is being added to the correct place.

btw, when Spike missiles for Israel? 2 nations have them but not the makers of the missiles??

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Even though I was wrong about the nation but at least I was right about the sub tree

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  • B initial “complete” version, flew in 1983.
  • W First production version, 70 built. Fitted to Batch 4 Blocks 8 + 9, Batch 5 Block 10. 44 “W” later upgraded to “Z” standard from 1988.
  • Z 80 built. Fitted to Batch 5 Block 11, Batch 6 Block 12. Supposed to be the ‘final’ version meeting requirements. Broadly met initial requirements, but not the revised requirements.
  • Stage 1 76 built from September 1988. Fitted from Batch 6 Block 13 to 15. Improved radar functions related to the aircraft’s new F-18 style HOTAS (Hands On Throttle and Stick) controls, improved cooling (for Saudi ADV) and refined TWS and ECCM algorithms. HUD Search mode, activated by a HOTAS switch, scans the 20 deg field of view of the HUD and automatically locks on to any detected target. 124 “Z” radars were upgraded to Stage 1 software.
  • Stage 1+ was rushed through in 1991 for the Gulf War. Radar designation is AA, with revised software.
  • Stage 2 was intended to be the definitive Foxhunter, fully meeting the revised requirements of the RAF.
  • Stage 2G was introduced from 1996; includes NCTR (Non-Cooperative Target Recognition) technology. Radar designation is AB.
  • Stage 2G* upgraded the radar processors and software.
  • Stage 2H upgraded the radar processor and optimised software.
  • CSP (Capability Sustainment Programme) was signed 5 March 1996, providing for upgrades to 100 Tornado F3s to allow use of AIM-120 AMRAAM and ASRAAM missiles. Radar upgrades would allow multi-target engagement capability, and attempt to unify the fleet on a common radar standard. Other targets included reducing susceptibility to ECM and improved serviceability. CSP was implemented in two stages in order to deliver some operational advantages as soon as possible. First delivery was made in 1998, and both phases were scheduled to be completed by 2002. It did not include a mid-course update facility for the AIM-120 AMRAAM, due to technical difficulties.
  • AOP (AMRAAM Optimisation Programme) was signed on 8 June 2001, for the provision of a mid-course guidance capability for AMRAAM on Tornado F3 aircraft, initial IOC was end 2002, and the upgrade program was concluded by late 2004.
  • FSP (F3 Sustainment Programme) Signed in December 2004, FSP sets out to address a number of issues identified at the end of the AOP (AMRAAM Optimisation Programme). It includes integration of AIM-120C-5 and ASRAAM FOC2 and enhancement of the weapons systems capability, particularly the displays, through a number of radar computer and main computer software changes. In December 2005, a Tornado F3 fired two AIM-120C-5s at subsonic targets.

CSP doesn’t have mid course guidance.

F-14B got it in dev (The best one from what I saw) and the F4E in the US tech tree got it as well.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1682gs9/dev_server_datamine_227251_228021_part_1/

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right at that moment i found it as well xD

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happy Tornado noice^^

Sad Hungarian mig 29 noises though.

They added the air sub tree to Sweden bu not Italy.

Why ? Gaijin : Eh

Tbh I want actual Italian attackers like the AMX and Harrier before they add a subtree for air planes

(Not that I am apposed to having them I just want the stuff used by Italy first)

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British : wut?

Mhm tbh I got a feeling the reason is BS though.

I wonder if Gaijin would be willing to give the AIM-95 to every plane that tested it?

Spoiler

AIM-95 Cogar

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Ah, and still no sight of something…

Is the Hungarian mig 29 B more powerful then the SMT ?

If that’s a 9.12B, NO; you need a S instead

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UK didn’t get South African air tree along with the ground tree. There’s always the possibility it will be added in a future update to keep content coming for the Italian tree.

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