Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

Again specify your aircraft, you might not be experienced with russian aircrafts it has like 20 models, the Su-27P cannot even use R-73, its good on 11.7

Su-27P can indeed fire R-73s, that’s in-fact the only IR missile it can fire.
We’re not going to see an Su-27 without IR missiles.

R-73 came out in 1984 and the Su-27P is from 1982 how do you expect it to get R-73 ?

Su-27 itself was introduced in 1985, Su-27P cannot be in service in 1982 since no Su-27 was in service yet.
Unless you mean in prototype, which R-73 was in prototype during that year as well.

You mean Prototypes Su-27 pre T-10S? And R-73 was completed in 82, year the missile was put into service 84

Su-27P joined the VVS in 1982. You can see it with R-60M not R-73, very limited ordnance you cant put this on 12.3

For comparison this is a late variant Su-27K, this one can go 12.0+ it has the neccessary armament to survive.

Those 2 missiles are R-73s. Your missile identification needs some practice.

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R-73 look different thats not the same.

dude, Su-27P it’s same plane what Su-27S but for Air Defence Forces, just without bombs and rockets

a major factor which can decide the BR

R-60M uses angled fins, and is significantly smaller.
R-73 uses rectangular fins as pictured in both photos you provided.

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man, it’s R-73
Su-27 cant take R-60s

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they can take it too, R-73 was not available in 1982.

If they cannot take R-60 according to you, why do they use R-60 here

Su-27 also like T-10-1 newer take R-60s it’s physically impossible
and R-73 available in pre series service in 1982


On this photo red layouts signed as r-60, but this early K-73 layout

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And yet i posted a photo which shows they CAN carry them, its not impossible, the modern SU-30 is also using the R-60.

That is once again an R-73 missile.
You’ve only posted photos of R-73s.

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You dont seem to have an idea how big the R-73 is…

It’s R-73
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Left R-73 right R-60
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You’re the one claiming an R-73 is an R-60M.

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