Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

They has been begging for the T-90M even before the likes of the Strv 122s, Leopard 2A6 and M1A2 SEP have been a thing in game as far as I can remember.

So no I don’t take them seriously anymore.

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yea but t90m should be in the game already, its not op, its a sidegrade…

and people who say “erm but its a vehicle in a lineup that a russian can use in battle” need to understand that out of 100 battles youre gonna use every vehicle in a lineup 10% of the time

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But they have still one of the highest winrates at top tier

stop using the winrate argument dude… its inaccurate…

also its funny how said wr doesnt apply whenever we are talking about america…(lets ignore their 70% wr on 10.7)

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how is it inaccurate?

Quality of a lineup matters and russia is better in this case compared to Germany or the US

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and so should be different Leopard 2A6 versions in germany, but we didnt even get those, get behind the que

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You do not know what the win rates are in WT, and if you did you’d be under NDA to not speak about them.

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This uses Thunderskill last I checked, which accounts for less than 5% [likely less than 2%] of matches that occur in a 1 month timespan.

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You know the winrates if you play at these brs long enough

not to mention t80bvm has 3x as many battles as the strv122 (which is has the 2nd highest number of amount of battles)

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which proves that the T80 is good enough compared to other tanks

Even if that were the case, it’s still a solid data sample (and the only one publicly available so far) that corresponds with the first hand experiences of (almost) everyone and even official Gaijin Statements.

Just like surveys, you don’t need to gather all data from every single individual- with enough participants you can get an accurate enough glimpse of reality.

I think you are using that argument wrong. The higher battle counts only makes the higher thunderskill winrate even more special.

And my win rate in M1A1 HC & T-80U are identical. And among my highest win rates in WT ground.
T-80BVM is on-par with other 11.7s, it’s not superior.

@SPANISH_AVENGER
Thunderskill is not a solid data sample and never will be.
On top of that you aren’t claiming that teams are more skilled in Soviet vehicles, which is what the data would prove even in its inaccurate state.
You’re falsely claiming vehicles are OP when that’s not what the data measures.

so 2% of matches isn’t enough data to form a conclusion but 1 data point is?

The reality is that when I play for the Russians against Germany and Sweden, we are destroyed in a few minutes and it’s game over

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Meanwhile the Merkava Mk.4M sitting at 36% winrate for me at 11.7 with ~110 battles played.

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sounds like massive skill issue to me then in that case

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