Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

it is currently the only top dog britain can get, that is the point and it was in actual use with the trainer grippen in britain, the typhoon is way further away then the grippen

Then it also doesnt matter what you think about this situation since both of us has personal opinion in the end.

Also you dont represent entire Swedish community therefore your opinion about that situation is also doesnt matter.

As you can see both side can play this game.

Gripen on that photo did have Swedish Air Force emblems which proves Uk doesnt own that plane in the first place.

İ suggest try to find better excuses for demanding a plane that has nothing to do with RAF.

Britain will have a Gripen anyway via the South Africans.

Which is properly why they stated the C is coming

Unless all of the russian non finish stuff get removed from swe, he does have a right

İts not their fault that Uk decided not to adopt another plane until Typhoon arrived.

They thought it was a good idea to upgrade those Tornados and use them as a stop gap solution until Typhoon arrived.

ok, but the photo above is a real aircraft… its wearing Swedish insignia because it is Swedish, in the real world that does mater…

Russian non Finnish on Swedish tree?

All those vehicles you mentioned are operated by Finland at some point so i dont understand what you’re talking about.

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stationed/loaned to britain used by a british military school to train british pilotsm a lot of british in their isnt it

I’m not using personal preference to determine my opinion, I’m saying Britain is going to suffer for a long time until the EF Typhoon is added and an SAAF Gripen especially if added soon would be a great way to remedy that.

Your argument seems to be that YOU don’t like the idea of Sweden’s best aircraft being shared and YOU prefer the EF Typhoon anyway so Britain shouldn’t have it in their TT.

you have yet to give an argument that isn’t based on your personal feelings, and you have yet to come up with a better solution, you say the SAAF Cheetah but that thing only has space for 2 AAMs which just won’t cut it in SU-27 and F-15 meta.

Thats why i dont like sub tree ideas because people like them can demand insane things for their favourite tech tree in order compete against other nations even tho they knew what they signed up for when they decided to grind those trees.

Guess accepting the fact that their favourite nation isnt the best in everything so they have to demand other nations top vehicles in order to compete against them.

its a game, it is supposed to be fun and balanced, not a 1 to 1 copy of real life military

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also this is the exact argument I have been using for the SAAF Gripen, please at least try to be a hypocrite in a more subtle way.

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İ didnt say Gripen or any other Sa vehicle shouldnt come to British tree i said Gripen shouldnt be top dog just like how Finnish Mig21Bis wasnt on Swedish tree.

Try not to play with those words and lower yourself anymore will ya?

Also Cheetah can use 4 missiles unlike your claim which means if Mirage2000C can perform with 4 missiles only so does Cheetah can.

İn that case lets remove R27ER from all Mig29’s and Yak-141 and limit them with R27R while changing their flight performance similiar to Tornado.

This game tries follow the road of realism while trying to be fun as much as it can but sadly not all nations will recieve same amount of fun because of their real life choices.

Even so the Mirage does suffer with only 4 missiles and it’s not fighting in an era with SU-27s with 10 missile and F-15s with at least 8, the Cheetah will be an interesting aircraft if it does come to the game but it is no replacement for the Gripen, which like I keep saying will be in Sweden’s TT anyways so if there is an SAAF tree there’s no good reason to wait before putting it there too.

No, since August 2019.

Just look at that FILTH: https://warthunder.com/en/news/6317-development-changes-and-optimization-in-the-german-tech-tree-en

I think that is the first sensible thing you have said all day… ignoring what came after obviously.

The MiG-29 with R-27Rs and R-73s (once they’re working) is a much more balanced than the R-27ER and R-60s we have now.

The ER is realy strong yes and might have been a mistake to get added, but the flight performance is balanced compared to f16 and f 14 i dont know where your problem is

the problem is you are just gatekeeping for whatever reason it is a game, it will make liberal choices because it will bring them more money to keep all tech trees playable and to add new aircraft to them

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