I would not have my hopes up for that staying at that BR, without even counting the currently missing, reported weapons
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If it moves up it would be a huge shame, because at higher battle ratings I feel there’s more options for CAS, and the Su-25BM is at 10.7 as well in ground realistic with more guided weapons options + R-73 missiles + R-60MK missiles for a total of 6 ATGMs (Not bad ones either) and 4 air-to-air missiles, two of which have IRCM.
We need this skin for the J22 asap :D
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Well, I was busy for the weekend and only just now found out that it ended up going to the RU tree after all. Dang.
Oh well, I’m personally still very happy that it’s in the game in some form nonetheless. I did notice that it currently lacks Serbian pilot voice lines in the dev server, so I submitted a bug report for that here so hopefully that should be fixed by the time the live server drops.
I was also going to make bug reports for the J-22M1A’s missing armaments as well, but then I noticed that @Akizyro had already done that for most of them for me (thanks btw). With that said, there’s one that they seemed to have missed that I might make my own bug report about, which is this thing:
Basically, it’s a standard Mark 82 bomb but with a vWAGK guidance/glide-bomb kit developed by the Serbian company Vlatacom, essentially almost identical to the American JDAM-ER series. For the J-22M1A Orao in-game it could serve as a nice alternative to the existing FAB-250 PGB, offering better aerodynamic performance when gliding in exchange for less overall explosive mass.
According to this brochure by Yugoimport, the vWAGK kit can also be mounted to all of the Mark 80 series of bombs, but only the Mark 82 version has been shown off publically so far:
Either way, I feel like it could be a nice option to have for the J-22M1A. It does already have the American AGM-65B so I don’t see why it can’t carry a few Mark 82s with glide bomb kits.
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But nowhere here is there any mention of the J-22
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A fair point, but that’s likewise also the case with the PGB-250. None of the official documentation of either the PGB-250 or the vWAGK explicity mention the J-22 as a carrier platform, atleast not from what I’ve been able to find. Part of the reason why is because they are simple glide bomb kits that are universally compatible with just about any aircraft with modern avionics and hardpoints for weapons, including the J-22M1A.
this is modernization of fab-250, which J-22 can use. Do you have evidence about Mark 82?
The J-22 never specifically used Mark 80 series bombs historically speaking, but it has carried other Western-origin munitions such as the AGM-65 Maverick, BL755 cluster bomb and the Matra Durandal. There is next to no information on the specific hardpoint type that the J-22 uses, but if that said type is able to carry all of those aforementioned Western munitions (which if anything, are more advanced) then it should be able to also carry the Mark 82 no problem.
I do realize that this is getting a bit into the realm of speculation, but let’s not pretend like there haven’t been way more egregious similar examples in the game before that Gaijin nonetheless were totally fine with. cough cough R-27R on the F-14A IRIAF
The J-22 Orao can already carry Mk-82 bombs, so it can carry the one shown by @rundownturner4 as fro m what I understand, the carry point is on the bottom unchanged (see image above by rundownturner4)
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The J-22 and the modernised J-22M1A can carry MK82 bombs.
Was thinking of opening a ticket for the MK82 bombs, but seeing as you will make one for the glide kit, I will skip it.
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Actually, you can go ahead and make one for the unguided standard Mark 82 bomb, since you seem to have access to sources for it that I didn’t even know existed. I’ll make a separate one about the vWAGK kit since I have done more research about that one specifically.
Opened the following issues: Grom-A, PLAB (NAPALM), 57mm pods
The only thing that can be a major buff is the PLAB. The rest is just for flavor.
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Arsenal 97 magazine, there are PDFs online if you can find them. Has a lot of info about the J22 Orao
If you find it you are free to make an issue. The only problem is that I can’t find any photos of it carrying the MK82. But I remember seeing them once as a kid at Batajnica…
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What source? And I suggest we discuss this in this thread.
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Found it here, please check: https://www.odbrana.mod.gov.rs/cir/arhiva-casopisa/arsenal/page/2
Edition: 97
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It needs R-60M and to be at 10.7 in air.
It has flares and L-150, 9.0 is just wrong for this
It also is wrong to be in the Russian tech tree but that is something else
The Air-to-Air armaments got scrapped, most likely. As even in older interviews about the plane, it was said that Air-to-Air was just one possibility for air-policing, but that is not the main focus of the project to modernise the J-22 Orao. The main focus was on modernised Air-to-Ground capabilities.
But again, nothing official about it being able to carry or not to carry any AA missiles.
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This is unfortunate, I hope gaijin can still implement the wingtip R-60s as they were somewhat real. Maybe even more real than kh-38mt