So... Quick idea. ( SU 39 ) : Lets add the SU-25TM in the Techtree

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So : Everybody remembers how the F14D premium came along right?
Fancy “Sidegrade” ( or so Gaijin said ) to the F14B that was actually a slight upgrade due to better Radar and IRST.

Remember how after a while, with enough complaining the F14D (VF-11) (techtree) came along? I would argue that sets a precedent.

Here’s my issue :

  • Prior to the Anti-Radiation update, the SU-39 and SU-25T were pretty much identical , except for a Kopyo-25 Radar Pod. That was somewhat excusable.

  • Afterthe Anti-Radiation update , the SU-39 gained access to the KH-25MPU , a decent broad-band ARM which could be carried on the inner pylons. As opposed to the base SU-25T , the SU-39 suddenly became better at CAS in GRB and other modes simply due to access to more convenient ARM options for self defense.

  • As of the current update, the SU-39 is now ( theoretically ) a straight upgrade in all fields due to:

    1. Access to Better Air-to-Air options: 4x R73 instead of 2x R73 and 2x R60 , R27ER/T , R77.
    2. Arguably better CAS performance due to the Kopyo pod , brand new Khod Thermal Imager.

Short version : Premium variant evolved from sidegrade to full upgrade.

My proposal? I don’t suggest we get rid of it , or chop its armaments. The solution is simple : In the techtree , in a folder with the SU-25T , Gaijin should add the SU-25TM . It’s been done before with the F14D , and it allows people specifically interested in Frogfoots to gain more variants of the plane. (Yes i know the SU-25TM and SU-39 are exactly the same thing)

  • Add SU-25TM ( Identical to 39 ) in a folder with Su-25T
  • Make the SU-25TM a modification (ex: SU-24M → SU24M2)
  • Replace the SU-25T outright.
  • I don’t want changes.
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Probably would make more sense as a separate vehicle, given the rather huge difference in armament.

Though the whole thing with the SU-25TM depends on gaijins willingness to cannibalize SU-39 sales.

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Honestly either works for me, I just want a tech tree Alternative to the Su-39

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Just a note: the Su-25TM and Su-39 aren’t identical aircraft. The Su-39 was explicitly upgraded with a new fire control system, the Suo-39P, to improve the operation and integration of air to air missiles.

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I did extensive research into the Su-39 a while back, and the distinction between the Su-25TM and Su-39 can be somewhat confusing and blurry. However, one definitive distinction is the fire control system and associated subsystems implemented on the Su-39.

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I’d go as far as to say that rn su-39 is best Su-25 variant in the game even better su25sm3 lolll (kh-38 is mostly a liability for this aircraft)

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No you get r73s at 10.7 …

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I know the details , i had the pleasure of scouring documents for KH25MPU compatibility.
I said identical because its entierly up to gaijin to just name it SU-25TM(Late) or whatever trick they pull with stuff like this.

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f4s is still the same br as the f4j lmfao despite being better and the is2m i think as well