SO.4050 Vautour IIA/IIN (Israel)-Air RB9.0→8.7~8.3

Before suggesting lowering a plane in BR, consider how the lower BR planes can, or cannot, deal with that plane, then realize that it’s better to send everything around that plane upwards instead. Those supersonics you mentioned in the OP? send them up instead. And to consider those planes, send everything above them higher too.

Ideally, I think bombers at jet tiers should die if an opponent takes an interception path towards them, and if it’s a straight chase, the bomber, if unmaneuverable, should be able to escape with speed. This would give a fighting chance to everyone.

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@lanthth

Just bring down the French ones

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Why

Br ause they are bad and useless at their current BR.

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And the identical Israeli ones aren’t?

Good 4050 is about the same performance as a f9f8 in a dogfight with its energy

Let’s say 8.7 if top speed would work, 8.3 if the turn is bad enough

Idk what you’re saying

Ive flown both vautours and the saar, and the vautour is genuinely the better plane, I can’t express into words just how abysmally dogshit the saar truly is, you will struggle against an a4e early in a dogfight.

the opposite! the vautour can move and its got excellent speec and acceleration.

nah, the vautour IIN at 8.0 would be ridiculous, its already very strong at 8.3.

Scimitar? G.91s?

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ngl I had a brainfart and forgot about the g.91, the scimitar is basically unplayed though

Scimitar is really good at 8.7 if you play it right

sure but never played

yeah running away and being a nuisance and baiting people into stalling themselves out, wow amazing way to play the game.

its just a bnz jet? why so dramatic?

I’d say the Scimitar is better than the 9.0 Vautours with no AAMs.

Both should go down

Ok, read what you replied to

IIRC there are some that get shafrir 1s

The French and other Israeli Vautours don’t get any IR missiles.

Those ones can definitely go down.

not in game…