this mode is sucks! i waited 10 minutes to get into one with a 300% RP booster to try and earn some RP for my Mi-24P. I have 8 Shturms with a 5km range and 40 S-8KO rockets, and I’m up against some try hard with a fully spaded AH-64E that is spamming out 16 AGM-179 IR’s with 16 km range destroying everything i even look at before i can even line up a shot! I ended up getting 11 kills and wasting my booster and time! SNAIL! FIX YOUR GAME!
Balance:
Matches need to be separated by Helicopters Rank to prevent matches where low and mid BR Helicopters are being outclassed in a match by 11.0’s plus, with fire and forget missiles. this will allow Devs the opportunity to try again to create an actual good and enjoyable mode to play, instead of a lazy attempt at a trash placeholder PVE mode and provide balanced matches for each rank with NPC’s enemy units of that ranks BR’s and prevent one player with FOFs to kill 90% of the NPC’s and ruin the mode for low experience or low BR players
Economics:
Helicopters should receive 100% of the SL modifier on their stat card. PVE should be the best way to grind SL with any vehicles, while RP should come more from PVP G/AAB G/ARB.
The cost to spawn should be removed and instead replaced with a cost to repair, forcing players who make it through without a loss to pay SL to play a PVE mode is only there to tax players, players who are able to complete a match with out a lost shouldn’t be insulted with a fee to simply play a PVE mode.
Mechanics:
Collision between players needs to be removed. its abused by players and adds nothing good to the mode.
Spawns appearing randomly from the ground and disappearing needs to end. they should drive in formation or convoy from the edge of the map or spawn at a Base and move from there to a front line.
Bases and attacking them SUCKS! and is very boring and poorly implemented. bases should be large sprawling complexes with airfields, hangers, multiple buildings and installations like radars that have an actual effect on the match and are required to be destroyed to eventually defeat the base and deplete the NPC’s tickets. Bases should by guarded by various BR /rank / Era appropriate SPAA’s. base should be Dangerous to approach or attempt to attack without a coordinated effort and have overlapping layers of defense.
players shouldn’t ever be without targets to attack, the competitive nature of the mode needs to be changed to a cooperative style.
players shouldn’t be struggling to score points because one or two players are dominating and hogging all the kills.
the max players should be reduced to 6 and require only 2 to start with a squad members only mode.
i could make more suggestions but these are some major ones to implement first, currently this mode is the most neglected and poorly developed mode in the whole game and needs a serious overhaul.
Please consider making Warthunder actually fun to play.
The mode is so shit that I have literally not bothered to play any of the french helis that I have (all of them) because it’s not fun, not worth it, and you won’t get any progress in a stock heli anyway.
i play it from time to time… and usually so much that i got recognised twice now there… im kinda good at it too. but yes it needs improvement VERY BADLY
They said they are ok with the current state of Heli PVE. They also made heli grind possible with ground vehicles. And also said that they will try helicopters in escalation gamemode
I read all that as “We abandon this gamemode, helicopters are a failure”, sadly.
that because the developers don’t play it. i couldn’t care about “the grind” or them adding the ability to research helis by playing ground, (stupid idea any way) this isn’t about having a better way to grind more efficiently, (though that would be nice) It’s about the fact that this mode is not fun to play. I want a heli PVE mode that is fun and challenging to play. there are better and more developed missions in Playstation 2 heli games like Thunderstrike.
Id like to se helis in nuke thunder too, but that doesn’t justify leaving heli PVE mode to rot in an unfished and buggy state, the lazy attitude of the developers is unacceptable, and the reason for much of the frustration of the player base and leads to low sales and players quitting, gaijin needs to step up and and start making improvements because play count is beginning to decrease. there are lots of premium helis id like to buy but simply wont as the snail has done nothing in the last 4 years to earn a dollar from me.
that wouldn’t make an improvement, as the match maker fills the mode with helis of any BR, that’s the main problem, is that top tier helis are killing everything and making it very difficult and frustrating for low BR heli players to earn RP.
last time I played it heli pve was still +/-0.5 br like normal, just the arcade BRs for helicopters are really messed up and max out at 11.0 instead of 13.0
This. Whats especially funny, or more like a punch in the guts to me is that they removed a challenging, exciting gamemode to replace it with pve.
Yeah yada yada ada heli pvp ec sure had its problems, and being continously swatted out of the sky from 10 km away by litte timmy that just bought his first heli, a ka-50, from 10 km away with 0 counterplay while being scouted for everyone was basicallly unplayable and annoying af.
But thats not my point. For the helis that were of similar BR and similar in power it was a very fun and skill dependent gamemode, actually my fav gamemode in the entire game.
But instead of creating brackets and forcing only helis of similar capabilities to fight each other, fixing the vikhrs to what they are now and remove the scouting system (so utility helis, helis focussing on ground attacks or not spaded helis can sneak around and get somethign done without being literally laserbeamed from 10 km out) and add more dynamic objectives to spread players over the map and give helis or players that want to play more ground attack oriented more to do without being engaged everywhere, it was completely bombed.
I really struggle to understand why to completely erase a fun gamemode to put hours into creating something that unfortunately by many is being viewed as way worse and only played when absolutely unavoidable. Like really, what was the goal with that and are they happy with the result? Because heli pve is simply a disgrace for the game and unworthy as a gamemode for all the players that do love the whirlybirds.
I dont mean to talk bad about players that do enjoy Heli pve, I’m very happy if theres people that do. But objectively speaking, for me its way too boring, gives way too little rewards, isnt promoting teamplay at all and is just a dull and annoying experience you want to get over with asap to get the modifications you need.
