Wait until you hear about the Aster-30 for France and Italy or the Buk M3 for the soviets.
the KH38 is getting buffed again so yes
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Gaijin really just making CAS suffer so people rejoice when MMW saves it, and in the process makes all other ground vehicles suffer
Btw, are there plans to add the FLAADS 12 missile launcher to the Sky Sabre, like as a mod? Uses the same missiles, aside from it having a higher missile count now
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premium SPAA next year
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This feature already exists for TanSAM Kai. But unlike Tan, that has to launch its ARH missiles in mad dog, Land Ceptor will be able to provide DL to the target. Will be limited to only one at a time, but it is better than being dead.
I’m definitely going to snipe that tower of a radar across the map :)
Tbh the mad dog barely works, they just fly in place or hit the terrain most of the time, had one literally self detonate instead of tracking a plane flying at me 3km away
So… now that the Giraffe AMB radar is in the game, could the Swedish EldE 98 perhaps be converted into a MVSS with UndE 23 (Swedish name for the SAAB Giraffe AMB) and two EldE 98 launchers (the real ones and not the prototype we currently have in game with the radar on top) ?
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If not then i’m hoping that the UndE 23 together with two RBS (Robotsystem) 23 comes relatively soon.
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is it going to be functional even without the Radar vehicle?
iirc, the suggestion post linked a video/source that showed it to be operatable solely via the sight as well (since the launcher gives the guidance commands).
Edit, i was wrong, correction below
Well mechanically in-game when the radar vehicle gets destroyed all systems count as destroyed, i would imagine that this would be the case for all MVSS regardless if the launchers can operate independently or not.
They might be, we’ll have to wait for confirmation from Community Managers :)
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the japanese tanSAM isnt subject to this though
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Oh, yeah you’re right, i was mistaken. I’ll edit my post above. :)
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It should be (Land Ceptor is the name of Launcher, while Sky Sabre system as a whole)
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Two issues here. First is that the UK neither uses nor plans to acquire the CAMM-ER, it is an Italian missile used by the Italian army, air force, and soon also by the Polish army, navy and air force.
The second thing is that the iLauncher’s model is wrong - it uses the CAMM missile rack with CAMM-ER missiles. You can see below how the CAMM-ER missile rack should look like vs how one for the CAMM missiles does.
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GB can’t stop winning.
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In terms of game-convention, its still the iLauncher for both so its still perfectly feasible and will therefore be added to the game for both, Italy (and other nations) benefit from this same convention (e.g Italian Tornado uses the SuperTEMP SKYFLASH). The second part of this in terms of ‘plans’ to acquire CAMM-ER, CAMM-ER will be acquired as part of a larger buy for the RN and British Army in the near future supposedly MBDA and the UK are in final stage talks to approve this, and it’s been on marketting brochures for the T26 and T31’s integrated air defence for 5 years.
CAMM is a British Missile, but CAMM-ER is a joint venture between Italy and the UK, with the booster being provided by Avio and the new launcher by MBDA ITA (but the ejection mechanism is from the original CAMM), the missile body redesign and strakes are MBDA UK, the warhead, seeker, actuators, INS, datalink and fins retain their MBDA UK origin also.
I believe you’re correct here.
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Yes, you’re right in that it’s a JV development. What I meant by it being Italian is that its development was requested by Italy and the British government or armed forces have nothing to do with it.
As far as I know there are no plans for either RN or the British Army to acquire the CAMM-ER. They might be interested in the CAMM-MR variant, but I haven’t seen any sources talk about the plans to buy the CAMM-ER. As for the marketing regarding the T26 and T31, it’s likely just that, marketing. I mean, the Arrowhead 140PL are to be equipped with CAMM-ER, but that’s it as far as I know, at least when it comes to AH140 family.
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CAMM-MR would probably also require a new, longer range, radar to make the most of the missiles performance so I would put my money on the UK acquiring CAMM-ER instead as it requires effectively no change to the Sky Sabre’s already in service. Its also a non-issue that the UK doesn’t currently use it as Gaijin has made it clear that if weapons are technically compatible then they’re more than happy to add them.
Yeah that’s fair enough, the British do finance all developments of CAMM through their CAMM-upgrade and development programme so some limited British finances will have been used on CAMM-ER, though as even MBDA say Italy primarily derived the requirement as a replacement for Albatross and ASPIDE.
On the note of this one, the Royal Navy’s latest ‘layered air defence’ concept includes CAMM, CAMM-ER, CAMM-MR and ASTER 30 so they certainly intend to purchase it I would think, this is coming from the RN as opposed to BAE or Babcock. You’re right that much of it is marketing but that would also showcase the behind-the-scenes discussions.
This is from ThinkDefence and the anecdotal evidence references a tweet made by 16 Regiment Royal Artillery which said the British army was looking at options to extend the range in both the intermediary and medium range classes.
I’d probably assume the UK intends to purchase it but you’re right it isn’t confirmed just yet. Leaks also show interest as I’ve mentioned.
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